The New Sudoku Players' Forum

[Pyrrhon]

When you come to this forum or another sudoku variants forum, you will find hundreds of sudoku variants to choose from. But with so many, how do you separate the wheat from the chaff? I think a little voting can help to recognize the best variants. And I will start the voting here. I think we should vote to get a Top-10 list. To get enough votes I suggest that every forum participiant gets 10 votes that he can give up to the end of the year for one or more variants. (Of course somebody can use a smaller number of his votes).

So somebody can give all his 10 votes for sudoku X or she can give 6 votes for killer sudoku, 3 for pair pair sudoku, one for zero killer and another one for tricky sudoku. Or he gives all his 10 votes for 10 different variants.

To prevent a discussion what counts as a sudoku variant, you should only vote for variants that are from your point of view sudoku variants. If all make this I think no puzzle format can get the top-10 list that isn't a sudoku variant. To prevent cheating only voters are accepted which have created there account in this forums up to yesterday (14th december 2006).

Note: If you vote for a not so well-known variant and not discussed in this forum or a variant with a name that could be the name for more then one variant (this is for example for all 3-D or cube variants) then give so far as possible please a link to an example or a short descriptiuon of the special rules.

[Pyrrhon]

To make it easier to start I will give my votes:

Argyle Sudoku 2 votes
Killer Sudoku 1 vote
Zero Killer Sudoku 1 vote
Sum Search Sudoku 1 vote
Navigator Sudoku 1 vote
Skyscraper Sudoku 1 vote
Twin Corresponding Sudoku 1 vote
Pseudoku 1 vote
Pandigital Sudoku 1 vote

[jimbob]

I'll use all my votes for these killer variants:

Killer Sudoku - 3 votes
Killer X Sudoku - 3 votes
Zero Killer Sudoku - 2 votes
Zero Killer X Sudoku - 2 votes

[Pyrrhon]

Has really nobody else preferences for one or the other sudoku variant?

Pyrrhon

[m_b_metcalf]

Has really nobody else preferences for one or the other sudoku variant?

Pyrrhon

Well, if pressed, I'd vote for X-sudokus, massive sudokus and samurai, but that's because I like producing them. But it's not ethical to vote for yourself .

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

[Pyrrhon]

This moral problem would only arise if we would vote for single puzzles. But here the variants are the candidates. And sudoku-x as well as samurai sudoku are made by different people.

Pyrrhon

[HATMAN]

Agreeing with Mike Metcalf, I won't vote for KiMos or DG Killers (and unfortunately the moral problem does arise here as only H3lix has created another KiMo and I do not know of anyone else creating Disjoint Group Killers) so:

Double killer (Twin Corresponding) Sudoku 2 votes
EG killer (this is a varient of of double where the extra groups are all 45s - theoretically DG is in this category) 2 votes
Zero Killer 1 vote
Killer 1 vote
KiCo (Killer Colour See JC's site) 3 votes

and the only Vanilla:

Consecutive/Non-consecutive Sudoku 1 vote

I have tried most of the other variants and enjoy them, but currently killers are my obsession.

[Pyrrhon]

@Hatman

There is a difference between Double Killer and Twin Corresponding Killer. In the first case both grids have the same solution grid, in the second case the grids are different but corresponding like in Twin Corresponding Sudoku. I guess that you mean the first one, because it is better known. Say please if I'm wrong in this point.

[HATMAN]

pyrrhon

you are correct I misunderstood it.

[Pyrrhon]

Okay, then I give the preliminary result:

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Place   Variant                            Votes

1       Killer Sudoku                      5
2       Zero Killer Sudoku                 4
3       KiCo (Killer by Colour)            3
3       Killer X Sudoku                    3
5       Argyle Sudoku                      2
5       Double Killer                      2
5       EG Killer                          2
5       Zero Killer X Sudoku               2
9       Consecutive/Nonconsecutive Sudoku  1
9       Navigator Sudoku                   1
9       Pandigital Sudoku                  1
9       Pseudoku                           1
9       Skyscraper Sudoku                  1
9       Sum Search Sudoku                  1
9       Twin Corresponding Sudoku          1


I hope we get some more votes to recognize the best variants.

[mikejapan]

My votes are the same as jimbob's.

[fdkr]

Killer Sudoku - 8 votes
Killer X Sudoku - 2 votes

I don't care for the others. To me they seem like putting ketchup
on chateaubriand.

[udosuk]

Haven't given too much thoughts... Sorry!

3 -> Inequality Killer
2 -> Consecutive/Non-consecutive
1 -> Zero Killer X
1 -> EG Killer
1 -> Skyscraper
1 -> Sum Search
1 -> Windoku (NRC)

[Pyrrhon]

Here is the new preliminary result.

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Place   Variant                             Votes

1       Killer Sudoku                      16
2       Killer X Sudoku                     8
3       Zero Killer Sudoku                  7
4       Zero Killer X Sudoku                4
5       Consecutive/Nonconsecutive Sudoku   3
5       EG Killer                           3
5       Inequality Killer                   3
5       KiCo (Killer by Colour)             3
9       Argyle Sudoku                       2
9       Double Killer                       2
9       Skyscraper Sudoku                   2
9       Sum Search Sudoku                   2
13      Navigator Sudoku                    1
13      Pandigital Sudoku                   1
13      Pseudoku                            1
13      Twin Corresponding Sudoku           1
13      Windoku (aka NRC Sudoku)            1


You have now a week for your vote. Your votes are welcome.

[Richard S]

Hi Pyrrhon,

I think I am one of few, but I like toroidal's very much.

And (also as one of few) of course the 007-killer variant, but I won't vote for that variant, because I make most of them myself.

So here are my votes:

Toroidal 4 points
Killer jigsaw (Ruud) 3 points
Non consecutive 2 points
Consecutive 1 point

Looking forward to see if the new year will bring interesting new variants, I think we will have seen most variations by now...

Richard