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by **PaulIQ164** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:32 am

I agree. In fact, 11 is even worse (because you can eliminate 5 from a 10-total box).

by **udosuk** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:47 am

In fact 9, 10 and 11 are the same (4 pairings each). For 11 you could eliminate 1 anyway.

In general, for n-cell cages, 5n seems to be the worst sum you'll get, because that's the "median" number of all possible sums, e.g. 15 for 3 cells, 20 for 4 cells...

by **petef** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:50 am

Enigma wrote:Interestingly, the Times have now removed the first of the Samurai's from their website - the message must have got through:

Yes, Google (for now) shows the following page extract. The live page still has "To save you typing out the whole grids" later on.

Su Doku The Times Times Online
Win fantastic Su Doku prizes. Complete the two Samurai Su Doku puzzles to win a
selection of fabulous Su Doku products from The Times. ...
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,18209-1836331,00.html - Similar pages

by **kranser** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:13 pm

petef wrote:Su Doku The Times Times Online
Win fantastic Su Doku prizes. Complete the two Samurai Su Doku puzzles to win a
selection of fabulous Su Doku products from The Times. ...
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,18209-1836331,00.html - Similar pages

Pity Google didn't keep a cached copy of the whole page though!

Kranser.

by **kranser** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:28 pm

On Saturday 28th, The Times admitted that the 45min puzzle has multiple solutions!

Is this the first time that The Times had made an error with Su Doku?

Kranser.

by **PaulIQ164** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:42 pm

I think it's the first time a printed puzzle has ever been wrong, though there've been sudoky related mixups before (notably the Killer Su Doku rules). Needless to say, it was a non-Pappocom puzzle that was at fault.

by **Enigma** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:45 pm

kranser wrote:On Saturday 28th, The Times admitted that the 45min puzzle has multiple solutions!

Is this the first time that The Times had made an error with Su Doku?

Kranser.

On Sunday 30th, Kranser ought to have admitted that there was no such thing as Saturday 28th this month!

Is this the first time that Kranser has made an error with his dates?

Enigma

PS: The clocks should have gone back one hour, not one day... and not even that until today.

by **udosuk** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:08 pm

kranser wrote:Is this the first time that The Times had made an error with Su Doku?

Surely not the first time - go to these 2 pages:
Su Doku: October 28, 2005
Su Doku solutions: October 28, 2005
Compare yourself!

by **Pat** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:31 pm

kranser wrote:Is this the first time that The Times had made an error with Su Doku?

PaulIQ164 wrote:I think it's the first time a printed puzzle has ever been wrong

surely not the first time - we just recently had the misprint of the Championship puzzle

http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/viewtopic.php?p=11941#p11941 :

kuff28704 wrote:the grand final su doku was printed in the paper today, and after a while of trying to solve it i decided i didnt have enough time before i went out so put it into computer software to see what techniques it required
Code: Select all
38¦ ¦ 2 4¦ 2 ¦ 5 ¦ 6¦19 ---+---+--- ¦9 ¦2 ¦ 8 ¦ 4 2¦ 1¦ ---+---+--- 8 ¦ ¦ 9 ¦ 3 ¦8 1 ¦ ¦92

and it gave me a value of 2129 solutions

http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/viewtopic.php?p=11946#p11946 :

Pappocom wrote:Cor blimey! The paper did miss some clues out.

There should be a "6" at the end of row 4, a "7" in r7c3, and a "5" in r7c4.

- Pat

by **PaulIQ164** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:04 pm

Yes, of course. Forgot about that (though it was of course a transcription error as opposed to faulty puzzle). Still, the puzzles published as normal daily sudoku puzzles still have a 100% record.

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