September 17, 2017

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September 17, 2017

Postby ArkieTech » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:07 pm

Code: Select all
 *-----------*
 |1..|..5|9..|
 |2..|1.8|...|
 |...|.9.|2.8|
 |---+---+---|
 |..5|8..|32.|
 |...|...|...|
 |.18|..6|5..|
 |---+---+---|
 |7.3|.1.|...|
 |...|4.3|..1|
 |..1|6..|..5|
 *-----------*
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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby Leren » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:37 pm

Code: Select all
*-----------------------------------------------*
| 1     8     47   | 237  236 5 | 9    67-4 347 |
| 2    c349   479  | 1   b36  8 |a46   5    347 |
| 356   356   67   | 37   9   4 | 2    1    8   |
|------------------+------------+---------------|
| 69    7     5    | 8    4   1 | 3    2    69  |
| 3469  23469 2469 | 39   5   7 | 1    8    469 |
| 349   1     8    | 239  23  6 | 5    47   479 |
|------------------+------------+---------------|
| 7    d46    3    | 5    1   9 | 8   e46   2   |
| 568   256   26   | 4    78  3 | 67   9    1   |
| 489  c49    1    | 6    78  2 | 7-4  3    5   |
*-----------------------------------------------*

(4=6) r2c7 - (6=3) r2c5 - (3=49) r29c2 - r4c2 = (4) r7c8 => - 4 r1c8, r9c7; stte

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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby SteveG48 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:23 am

Code: Select all
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 1      8      47     | 237    236    5      | 9      467    347    |
 | 2    ad349   d479    | 1      6-3    8      |d46     5     d347    |
 | 356    356    67     | 37     9      4      | 2      1      8      |
 *----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 69     7      5      | 8      4      1      | 3      2      69     |
 | 3469   23469  2469   | 39     5      7      | 1      8      469    |
 | 349    1      8      | 239    23     6      | 5      47     479    |
 *----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 7     a46     3      | 5      1      9      | 8     b46     2      |
 | 568    256    26     | 4      78     3      |c67     9      1      |
 | 489   a49     1      | 6      78     2      | 47     3      5      |
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*


(3=469)r279c2 - 6r7c8 = r8c7 - (6=3479)r2c2379 => -3 r2c5 ; stte
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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby JC Van Hay » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:43 am

Code: Select all
+-------------------+---------------+----------------+
| 1     8      47   | 237  23(6)  5 | 9   47(6)  347 |
| 2     (349)  479  | 1    (36)   8 | 46  5      347 |
| 356   356    67   | 37   9      4 | 2   1      8   |
+-------------------+---------------+----------------+
| 69    7      5    | 8    4      1 | 3   2      69  |
| 3469  23469  2469 | 39   5      7 | 1   8      469 |
| 349   1      8    | 239  23     6 | 5   47     479 |
+-------------------+---------------+----------------+
| 7     (46)   3    | 5    1      9 | 8   4-6    2   |
| 568   256    26   | 4    78     3 | 67  9      1   |
| 489   (49)   1    | 6    78     2 | 47  3      5   |
+-------------------+---------------+----------------+
6r1c8 6r1c5
      6r2c5 3r2c5
            3r2c2 9r2c2 4r2c2
                  9r9c2 4r9c2
                        4r7c2 6r7c2 => -6r7c8; stte
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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby bat999 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:16 pm

JC Van Hay wrote:
Code: Select all
-6r7c8; stte

That's true.
But unless you can demonstrate how you found it I will assume that you used software to solve it instead of your brain.

As you can see by the other posts above, on this forum we often express our solutions as an AIC using Eurkea notation.

Maybe you could learn how to use this method too.

Here are some references to help you.
http://sudopedia.enjoysudoku.com/Alternating_Inference_Chain.html
http://sudopedia.enjoysudoku.com/Eureka.html
8-)
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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby bat999 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:17 pm

Code: Select all
.----------------------.--------------.---------------.
|  1      8       47   | 237   236  5 |  9   467  347 |
|  2      49-3    479  | 1    a36   8 | a46  5    347 |
|  356   b356     67   | 7-3   9    4 |  2   1    8   |
:----------------------+--------------+---------------:
|  69     7       5    | 8     4    1 |  3   2    69  |
|  3469   23469   2469 | 39    5    7 |  1   8    469 |
|  349    1       8    | 239   23   6 |  5   47   479 |
:----------------------+--------------+---------------:
|  7     b46      3    | 5     1    9 |  8   46   2   |
|  568   b256    b26   | 4     78   3 |  67  9    1   |
| b489   b49      1    | 6    a78   2 | a47  3    5   |
'----------------------'--------------'---------------'
(3=8)r29c57 - (8=3)r3789c2,r8c3,r9c1 => -3 r2c2,r3c4; stte
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Re: September 17, 2017

Postby Sudtyro2 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:46 pm

bat999 wrote:
JC Van Hay wrote:
Code: Select all
-6r7c8; stte

That's true.
But unless you can demonstrate how you found it I will assume that you used software to solve it instead of your brain.

Hi Bat,
JC is using a forbidding matrix (FM) technique. It's definitely brain-based, but tough on my old one.
He gives a nice example and detailed explanation in his April 17, 2014 puzzle posting http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/april-17-2014-t31756.html#p235830.

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