Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:41 pm

a wider list with potential redundancy
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...8..2..6...5..1..4...9.....36...4..8....7..1.......2..9;9.3;9.3;6.7
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..7...4.3...95..8......3...2..76..9......2..1......3..4;9.3;9.3;7.8
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4..3..7...97..5.......2..1..86..7......4..1......3..2;9.3;9.3;9.2
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...75..6.......2..1..86..9......4..2......1..3;9.3;9.3;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..9...4.3...86..7......2...4..97..5......3..4......1..2;9.4;8.8;7.6
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..2...76..5.......5..1..87..9......2..3......1..5;9.4;9.0;8.3
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4..3..2...98..5.......5..1..75..8......2..1......7..3;9.4;9.0;7.1
98.......7..9..8....6.5..7..4...3..6..86..5......2..1...97..6......4...3.....1.2.;9.4;9.2;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...87..5.......2..1..96..7......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.3;9.3
98.......7..9..6....6.5..8..4..3...8..87..5.......2.1...96..8......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.3;7.1
9..8..7...8..6......5..4...7..3...6..2..4.9....1.....54..9...3..6..7.2.......1..8;9.4;9.4;9.4
9..8..7...8..7......6..9.5.4..3....2.9..1..3...3..6...2.......4.1...5.9....7..6..;9.4;9.4;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...96..8.......2..4..75..9......1..2......3..1;9.4;9.4;2.8
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...75..9.......2..1..86..7......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.4;9.2
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..6..4...87..9.......3..2..75..8......4..1......2..3;9.4;9.4;8.9
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4...6..3..75..6......2..4...86..7......1...2.....3.1.;9.4;9.4;3.4
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...7..2.9.....4.6.1.........8.63.........1....4.....3.5.1;9.4;9.4;2.6
98.7.......6.5.7.......6.9.4.......3.2..1.4....96...5..9....3....83...7......2..1;9.4;9.4;9.2
98.......7..9..8....6....5..4..6..3...78..6.......2..5.1...5.4...86..5......3...2;9.5;7.1;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..95..7......2..1...87..5......4...2.....1.3.;9.5;8.9;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..2...76..5.......2..1..87..9......4..3......1..5;9.5;9.0;8.3
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..4...3..5..75..8......4..2...86..9......2...1.....1.3.;9.5;9.1;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..89..5......3..2...75..9......2...1.....1.4.;9.5;9.2;8.4
98.......7..9..8....6....5..9..4..3...86..7.......3..2.2...5.1...97..5......3...4;9.5;9.2;6.7
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4...5..3..86..5......2..1...75..9......1...2.....3.4.;9.5;9.3;9.2
98.......7..8..6....6.7..5..4..3..9...89..5.......2..1..76..9......4..1......3..2;9.5;9.3;9.2
98.......7..9..6....6.5..8..4..7..3...96..7.......2..1..87..5......3..4......1..2;9.5;9.3;9.2
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..95..8......2..1...87..5......6...4.....1.3.;9.5;9.3;7.1
98.......7..9..8....6....5..9..4..3...78..6.......2..4.1...3.7...86..5......1...2;9.5;9.3;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...3..6..96..5......2..1...87..9......4...3.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..76..5......2..1...85..9......1...4.....3.2.;9.5;9.5;8.9
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..96..5......2..1...85..7......1...2.....3.4.;9.5;9.5;9.1
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4...3..2..75..8......1..4...96..7......2...4.....5.3.;9.5;9.5;7.8
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...76..8.......2..4..95..7......1..2......3..1;9.5;9.5;2.8
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...96..8.......2..4..79..5......1..4......3..2;9.5;9.5;2.8
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4...5..3..79..5......2..1...85..7......3...4.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;9.2
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..2...79..5.......4..1..86..7......1..6......2..3;9.5;9.5;9.2
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..6...96..5.......2..1..89..7......1..2......3..4;9.5;9.5;9.0
98.......7..8..6....6.7..5..4..9..3...75..9.......2..1..89..7......6..4......1..2;9.5;9.5;8.9
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4...3..2..79..5......1..3...86..7......2...4.....9.1.;9.5;9.5;9.1
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..86..5......2..1...75..8......1...2.....3.4.;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..4..3...87..5.......2..1..76..9......3..2......1..4;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.7..5..6..4..7...97..8.......3..2..86..5......2..3......7..4;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.7..9..7..9..8...54..3.......2..4.6..5..7....3....1.....12..;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..2..75..8......2..4...86..7......5...3.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...75..6.......2..1..86..9......1..4......3..2;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..8....6.7..5..4..3..2...75..6.......4..5..86..5......2..1......1..3;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.......7..9..8....6.7..5..4..3..6...96..7.......2..1..85..6......4..2......1..3;9.5;9.5;8.9
98.7.......6...9.........758..5..6....4.3.........2..46..8..7......2...1.....1.3.;9.5;9.5;2.6
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...8..9.......2.1.5.......7.3.26.........1....5.....2.1.4;9.5;9.5;3.4
98.7.......6.5.7.......6.9.4.....3...5...2..4..85...7..3....1....98...6.....1...2;9.5;9.5;7.8
98.......7..9..8....6.5..7..4...7..3..96..7......2..1...85..6......1...2.....3.8.;9.6;2.8;2.8
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4..3..9...75..8.......2..1..87..5......1..3......5..2;9.6;9.0;8.3
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..4..3...86..5.......2..1..78..9......3..2......1..4;9.6;9.3;8.2
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4..7..3...96..7.......2..1..87..5......3..4......1..2;9.6;9.3;9.2
9..8..7...8..6..5...6.....47...8.6....37...2......1...6....81...5.....3...4.9...2;9.6;9.6;7.6
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..9...4..3...2..5...74......4...1.9...68.....2....3....1..4.;9.6;9.6;9.4
9..8..7...8..9......6..5.9.5...6..4..6...3.....34..2..1..7..9....2..4.3.........1;9.6;9.6;3.8
98.........76..5......7..4.4...6..8...3..72.....5....93..2....1.1...3.....2.5.3..;9.6;9.6;9.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...3..7..87..5......2..1...96..7......1...2.....4.3.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4..3..6...96..5.......2..1..87..9......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..3..7...96..8.......2..1..75..9......1..2......3..4;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...76..9.......2..1..85..7......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;8.9
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4...3..7..86..5......2..1...75..9......4...5.....1.2.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..7...76..5.......2..1..89..7......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;8.9
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..7..3...86..7.......2..1..97..5......3..4......1..2;9.6;9.6;9.1
98.......7..9..6....6.7..5..4..3..2...86..5.......1..4..95..7......2..1......3..5;9.6;9.6;3.8
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..75..8......2..1...86..7......4...3.....1.2.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..96..8......2..1...87..5......3...4.....1.2.;9.6;9.6;8.3
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...76..5.......2..1..87..6......1..4......3..2;9.6;9.6;8.9
98.7.......6...9.........75.9.6..5....4.3.........2..1.6.9..8......1...4.....3.2.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6...9.........75.9.6..7......4..3......2..1.6.5..8....1.2.........3.4.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6...9.........75.9.6..8......4..3......2..1.6.8..5....2..1.......3...4;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6...9.........754...3......85..7.......2.1...98..6......1...2.....4.3.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6...9.........754...3.....9.8..7.......2.1..6.9..5......2..4......1..3;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...62.........1....5.....2.1.43..8.......2.6.5.......7.9.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...62.........1....5.....2.1.43..9.......2.1.5.......7.8.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...62.........1....5.....2.1.43..9.......2.6.5.......7.8.;9.6;9.6;3.4
98.7.......6.5.4.......9...32.........5....6.....2.5.4.7.1.8.....2.3.6.........1.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6.5.4.......9...36.........2....4.....3.5.2.9.8.1.....3.4.2.........7.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6.5.4.......9...36.........2....5.....6.2.4.1.8.7.....3.2.5.........1.;9.6;9.6;2.6
98.7.......6.5.7.......6.4.8...3.....9...5.2...56..3..4.......1..1..76.....1....2;9.6;9.6;2.6
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby yzfwsf » Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:52 pm

champagne wrote:I have lost the grey area, but I still have the database controlling old seeds.
I started a rating in the file with 20-23 clues.
I am curious to see if such puzzles are in the limits of your criteria.
They have a better chance to deliver long chains.

9..8..7...8..6......5..4...7..3...6..2..4.9....1.....54..9...3..6..7.2.......1..8 ED=9.4/9.4/9.4
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...6...9.8...5.....3...2.....13..7..6...4..2..9......1..4 ED=9.7/9.7/7.8
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...8..2....1..3..4.2.......9..7.......4.2.1..8....8.5..6. ED=9.7/9.7/9.7
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...8..9....7.6..2..8...3..4...2....8.1..1......5....1.6.. ED=9.6/1.2/1.2
9..8..7...8..6..5...5..4...6....32...1.....6.....9...41..7......2..4...9..3..28.. ED=9.7/9.7/9.2
9..8..7...8..7......6..5.8.6....4..5.3.2...4...2...6...1.9.......5..2.3.....8...1 ED=9.7/9.7/9.0
9..8..7...8..7......6..9.5.4..3....2.9..1..3...3..6...2.......4.1...5.9....7..6.. ED=9.4/9.4/3.4
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..4...3.......4.6..2.1....71...9..2..8.9.....3....5.....6.8. ED=9.7/9.7/3.4
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..4..38......3..2..3.6..........24....51...1..2...6..89..... ED=9.7/9.7/6.6
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..9...4..3...2..5...74......4...1.9...68.....2....3....1..4. ED=9.6/9.6/9.4
9..8..7...8..7..6...7.....54..3.......5.8.9.......2..13....4....7.1....2..9.6.5.. ED=9.7/9.7/9.4
9..8..7...8..7..6...7.....54..3......2...1.3...3.5.9...1...4.....5.9.6.....2....8 ED=9.7/9.7/9.7
9..8..7...8..7..6...7..5..43...2.....1.....2...81..3...7.9..8....9.4...5.....6... ED=9.6/1.2/1.2
9..8..7...8..9......6..5.9.5...6..4..6...3.....34..2..1..7..9....2..4.3.........1 ED=9.6/9.6/3.8

Only 9 puzzles are t&e(Single,1) or t&e(LC,1). B or gB scores are as follows:
Code: Select all
puzzle                                                 te(LC)   te(S)
9..8..7...8..6......5..4...7..3...6..2..4.9....1.....54..9...3..6..7.2.......1..8 ED=9.4/9.4/9.4  t&e1  t&e1   B21
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...6...9.8...5.....3...2.....13..7..6...4..2..9......1..4 ED=9.7/9.7/7.8  t&e1  t&e2 gB21
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...8..2....1..3..4.2.......9..7.......4.2.1..8....8.5..6. ED=9.7/9.7/9.7  t&e1  t&e2 gB16
9..8..7...8..6..5...5..4...6....32...1.....6.....9...41..7......2..4...9..3..28.. ED=9.7/9.7/9.2  t&e1  t&e2 gB20
9..8..7...8..7......6..5.8.6....4..5.3.2...4...2...6...1.9.......5..2.3.....8...1 ED=9.7/9.7/9.0  t&e1  t&e2 gB14
9..8..7...8..7......6..9.5.4..3....2.9..1..3...3..6...2.......4.1...5.9....7..6.. ED=9.4/9.4/3.4  t&e1  t&e2 gB22
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..4...3.......4.6..2.1....71...9..2..8.9.....3....5.....6.8. ED=9.7/9.7/3.4  t&e1  t&e2 gB21
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..9...4..3...2..5...74......4...1.9...68.....2....3....1..4. ED=9.6/9.6/9.4  t&e1  t&e2 gB24
9..8..7...8..7..6...7.....54..3.......5.8.9.......2..13....4....7.1....2..9.6.5.. ED=9.7/9.7/9.4  t&e1  t&e2 gB20
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:28 am

from your answer, it seems that rating <=9.4 are in the scope.
I'll rate the entire file and send you such puzzles.
May-be later I'll re do a vicinity on this file 20_23 clues to catch lower ratings.

I have also to put in the google drive the last chunks of my big run, what should come to-day
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby yzfwsf » Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:47 am

champagne wrote:a wider list with potential redundancy

Only 69 puzzles are t&e(Single,1) or t&e(LC,1). B or gB scores are as follows
Code: Select all
9..8..7...8..6..5...4..3...8..2..6...5..1..4...9.....36...4..8....7..1.......2..9;9.3;9.3;6.7  t&e1  t&e1  B22
98.7.......6.5.7.......6.9.4.......3.2..1.4....96...5..9....3....83...7......2..1;9.4;9.4;9.2  t&e1  t&e1  B17
9..8..7...8..6......5..4...7..3...6..2..4.9....1.....54..9...3..6..7.2.......1..8;9.4;9.4;9.4  t&e1  t&e1  B21
98.7.......6.5.7.......6.9.4.....3...5...2..4..85...7..3....1....98...6.....1...2;9.5;9.5;7.8  t&e1  t&e1  B26
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4..3..7...97..5.......2..1..86..7......4..1......3..2;9.3;9.3;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB10
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...75..6.......2..1..86..9......4..2......1..3;9.3;9.3;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..9...4.3...86..7......2...4..97..5......3..4......1..2;9.4;8.8;7.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..2...76..5.......5..1..87..9......2..3......1..5;9.4;9.0;8.3  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4..3..2...98..5.......5..1..75..8......2..1......7..3;9.4;9.0;7.1  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..9..8....6.5..7..4...3..6..86..5......2..1...97..6......4...3.....1.2.;9.4;9.2;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...87..5.......2..1..96..7......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.3;9.3  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..9..6....6.5..8..4..3...8..87..5.......2.1...96..8......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.3;7.1  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
9..8..7...8..7......6..9.5.4..3....2.9..1..3...3..6...2.......4.1...5.9....7..6..;9.4;9.4;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB22
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...96..8.......2..4..75..9......1..2......3..1;9.4;9.4;2.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB15
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...75..9.......2..1..86..7......4..3......1..2;9.4;9.4;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..6..4...87..9.......3..2..75..8......4..1......2..3;9.4;9.4;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4...6..3..75..6......2..4...86..7......1...2.....3.1.;9.4;9.4;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...62.........1....5.....2.1.43..9.......2.6.5.......7.8.;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB21
98.......7..9..8....6....5..4..6..3...78..6.......2..5.1...5.4...86..5......3...2;9.5;7.1;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB10
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..95..7......2..1...87..5......4...2.....1.3.;9.5;8.9;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..2...76..5.......2..1..87..9......4..3......1..5;9.5;9.0;8.3  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..4...3..5..75..8......4..2...86..9......2...1.....1.3.;9.5;9.1;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB17
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..89..5......3..2...75..9......2...1.....1.4.;9.5;9.2;8.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..9..8....6....5..9..4..3...86..7.......3..2.2...5.1...97..5......3...4;9.5;9.2;6.7  t&e2  t&e1 gB12
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4...5..3..86..5......2..1...75..9......1...2.....3.4.;9.5;9.3;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..8..6....6.7..5..4..3..9...89..5.......2..1..76..9......4..1......3..2;9.5;9.3;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB10
98.......7..9..6....6.5..8..4..7..3...96..7.......2..1..87..5......3..4......1..2;9.5;9.3;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB15
98.7.......6.5.4.......9...36.........2....4.....3.5.2.9.8.1.....3.4.2.........7.;9.6;9.6;2.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..9..8....6....5..9..4..3...78..6.......2..4.1...3.7...86..5......1...2;9.5;9.3;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...3..6..96..5......2..1...87..9......4...3.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB15
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..76..5......2..1...85..9......1...4.....3.2.;9.5;9.5;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..4..3...87..5.......2..1..76..9......3..2......1..4;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4...3..2..75..8......1..4...96..7......2...4.....5.3.;9.5;9.5;7.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB17
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...76..8.......2..4..95..7......1..2......3..1;9.5;9.5;2.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..8..3...96..8.......2..4..79..5......1..4......3..2;9.5;9.5;2.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4...5..3..79..5......2..1...85..7......3...4.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..2...79..5.......4..1..86..7......1..6......2..3;9.5;9.5;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB15
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..6...96..5.......2..1..89..7......1..2......3..4;9.5;9.5;9.0  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.7..5..4..9..3...75..9.......2..1..89..7......6..4......1..2;9.5;9.5;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4...3..2..79..5......1..3...86..7......2...4.....9.1.;9.5;9.5;9.1  t&e2  t&e1 gB20
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4...5..3..86..5......2..1...75..8......1...2.....3.4.;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..9..8....6.5..7..4...7..3..96..7......2..1...85..6......1...2.....3.8.;9.6;2.8;2.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..9..6....6.7..5..6..4..7...97..8.......3..2..86..5......2..3......7..4;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB10
98.......7..9..6....6.7..9..7..9..8...54..3.......2..4.6..5..7....3....1.....12..;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB12
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..2..75..8......2..4...86..7......5...3.....1.2.;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...75..6.......2..1..86..9......1..4......3..2;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..9..8....6.7..5..4..3..2...75..6.......4..5..86..5......2..1......1..3;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.......7..9..8....6.7..5..4..3..6...96..7.......2..1..85..6......4..2......1..3;9.5;9.5;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB11
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...8..9.......2.1.5.......7.3.26.........1....5.....2.1.4;9.5;9.5;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..7...4.3...95..8......3...2..76..9......2..1......3..4;9.3;9.3;7.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB17
98.......7..9..6....6.5..7..4..3..9...75..8.......2..1..87..5......1..3......5..2;9.6;9.0;8.3  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..9..6....6.5..9..7..4..3...86..5.......2..1..78..9......3..2......1..4;9.6;9.3;8.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4..7..3...96..7.......2..1..87..5......3..4......1..2;9.6;9.3;9.2  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
9..8..7...8..6..5...6.....47...8.6....37...2......1...6....81...5.....3...4.9...2;9.6;9.6;7.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB22
9..8..7...8..7..6...5..9...4..3...2..5...74......4...1.9...68.....2....3....1..4.;9.6;9.6;9.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB24
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4...3..7..87..5......2..1...96..7......1...2.....4.3.;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB18
98.......7..8..6....6.5..7..4..3..6...96..5.......2..1..87..9......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.5..8..4..3..7...96..8.......2..1..75..9......1..2......3..4;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.......7..8..6....6.5..9..4..3..7...76..9.......2..1..85..7......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB15
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..3..7...76..5.......2..1..89..7......4..3......1..2;9.6;9.6;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..8..6....6.9..5..4..7..3...86..7.......2..1..97..5......3..4......1..2;9.6;9.6;9.1  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..9..6....6.7..5..4..3..2...86..5.......1..4..95..7......2..1......3..5;9.6;9.6;3.8  t&e2  t&e1 gB20
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..75..8......2..1...86..7......4...3.....1.2.;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB14
98.......7..9..6....6.8..5..4...3..5..96..8......2..1...87..5......3...4.....1.2.;9.6;9.6;8.3  t&e2  t&e1 gB13
98.......7..9..8....6.5..9..4..8..3...76..5.......2..1..87..6......1..4......3..2;9.6;9.6;8.9  t&e2  t&e1 gB12
98.7.......6...9.........75.9.6..5....4.3.........2..1.6.9..8......1...4.....3.2.;9.6;9.6;2.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB20
98.7.......6...9.........75.9.6..8......4..3......2..1.6.8..5....2..1.......3...4;9.6;9.6;2.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB16
98.7.......6...9.........754...3......85..7.......2.1...98..6......1...2.....4.3.;9.6;9.6;2.6  t&e2  t&e1 gB17
98.7.......6.5.4.......3...62.........1....5.....2.1.43..9.......2.1.5.......7.8.;9.6;9.6;3.4  t&e2  t&e1 gB17
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby yzfwsf » Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:55 am

champagne wrote:from your answer, it seems that rating <=9.4 are in the scope.
I'll rate the entire file and send you such puzzles.
May-be later I'll re do a vicinity on this file 20_23 clues to catch lower ratings.
I have also to put in the google drive the last chunks of my big run, what should come to-day

It seems that your T&E filter is not that accurate.
Here is the pattern game's longest B rating:
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001200000030040000500006700400600500080000090006007002002500100000080003000009040 B30 9.6/9.6/9.6 - 1to9only  t&e1
504800000089050040720003000800000009090000010003000200000002037070090120000100406 B28 9.6/9.6/9.0 - 1to9only  t&e1
000001020000030004005600700002005001030000080400900600006002900800040000010700000 B28 9.6/9.6/9.6 - 1to9only  t&e1
010200000300040000005006700700100500080000030006009002002500600000080040000007005 B28 9.6/9.6/9.6 - 1to9only  t&e1
000001020300000400014500600700080300000207000009050008008002960003000004070600000 B27 9.6/9.6/9.1 - JPF  t&e1
000001002030000040005060700000010080006300500900007004009070000040800090800009006 B27 9.6/9.6/9.5 - m_b_metcalf  t&e1
100200003040000050006004700700001600000020000008900002003100800050000090600007004 B27 9.5/9.5/9.5 - m_b_metcalf  t&e1
400008005003100900070050010200000040005000200080000006030020070009004800100600003 B27 9.6/9.6/9.5 - gsf  t&e1
002600000040007500300000080600200010000090000080004009050000007001300050000009400 B27 9.6/9.6/9.1 - gsf  t&e1
009006008000090070700800300008300002040000050100000700002007006050040000300200100 B27 9.6/9.6/9.6 - ronk  t&e

Max B rating puzzle is SE=9.6
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:05 am

Thanks for all this
None of these files have been created to work on your topic.

I apply in the vicinity seacrh an "easy filter" supposed to be close to T&E1
In some ways, I did not expect to get puzzles of interest to you out of the vicinity search but I knew that many of them were in the skfr ratings <10

The last file is my very old file of puzzles controlling the redundancy of the seeds for the vicinity loops.
Again, I thought to be over your cut off.

Let me know if you are interested in getting more (skfr er<=9.6).

Note: If I had a good match with T&E1 and my "easy filter" I could have a vicinity looking for the right target, but I have small personal interest to go in that direction.
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby yzfwsf » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:02 am

Thanks for your help, you don't need to adjust your search, just provide me with the gray area puzzles you eliminated.If you find it troublesome or not interested, you can ignore my request.
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:35 am

I'll load to-day low ratings in files not yet processed and later what comes in the 20-23 area.

back to the current work
Big file >10.5 but not many very high init

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.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1.....2....7..37..5.94.4...32.5;117;51619380;6Pm42OI054oqY5
.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1...5.2....7..37..5.94.4...32..;117;51619380;6Pm42OI055oqY1
.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1.....2....7..47..3.95.3...52.4;117;51619382;6Pm42OI054oqY5
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445QG6
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4793.....2...5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445UG4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4.93........75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bQ06
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4793.........5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bU04
1...567....67......8.13......5.....13.....49.....7....51.8.3...6.8.1.....3756....;117;157337784;nX1QWW132he2U0
.2..5.7..4...8..237.8.3...52.5....4.3......78.87...5.....9.......4.21.......7...4;117;221806673;I9oLiG1s88W6G4
.2..5.78.4...8..237...3...52.5....4.3......78.87...5.....9.......4.21.......7...4;117;221806673;IBoHiG1s88W6G4

next step will be an update of the entire file of such ratings since the last
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:44 am

I just loaded a file _yzf3 on the google drive,
last of the first 80 million puzzles processed after the vicinity on the direct search.
I am waiting for the end of the process for the last seeds

area 20-23 clues will come later, rating in progress
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby hendrik_monard » Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:35 pm

champagne wrote:Big file >10.5 but not many very high init

Code: Select all
.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1.....2....7..37..5.94.4...32.5;117;51619380;6Pm42OI054oqY5
.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1...5.2....7..37..5.94.4...32..;117;51619380;6Pm42OI055oqY1
.23...7..45.....23..9....4.......95..7..9.......8.1.....2....7..47..3.95.3...52.4;117;51619382;6Pm42OI054oqY5
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445QG6
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4793.....2...5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445UG4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4.93........75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bQ06
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4793.........5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bU04
1...567....67......8.13......5.....13.....49.....7....51.8.3...6.8.1.....3756....;117;157337784;nX1QWW132he2U0
.2..5.7..4...8..237.8.3...52.5....4.3......78.87...5.....9.......4.21.......7...4;117;221806673;I9oLiG1s88W6G4
.2..5.78.4...8..237...3...52.5....4.3......78.87...5.....9.......4.21.......7...4;117;221806673;IBoHiG1s88W6G4

The last two puzzles have a B9B rating. As they have the same solution, I will add the first one to my solutions database, containing solutions of all known puzzles with x > 6 in BxB. This list now contains 1748 solutions.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gLUBdAcdF9ntMiS_bc7Z_AEAu7XfhOnQ/view?usp=drive_link
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:51 pm

I forgot to report on this one coming out of a max expand small run on the solution grids with high ratings;
The list is long, but with a limited number of solution grids

(note: the file for yzfwsz have been uploaded)

....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2.4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44XQG6;168;4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2.4793.....2...5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44XUG4;168;4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445QG6;168;4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2....4793.....2...5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me445UG4;168;4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4.93........75;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bQ06;168;4
....5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4793.........5;117;90100874;GLLmA8me44bU04;168;4
...45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2...93.....2..75;117;90100874;OLLmA8me44XOG6;168;4
...45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2..793.....2...5;117;90100874;OLLmA8me44XSG4;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....3..4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4......4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;ILLGA8me441QG6;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....3..4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4......4793.....2...5;117;90100874;ILLGA8me441UG4;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2.4.93.....2..75;117;90100874;ILLm28me44XQG6;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2.4793.....2...5;117;90100874;ILLm28me44XUG4;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4.93........75;117;90100874;ILLm28me44bQ06;168;4
.2..5.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2.4793.........5;117;90100874;ILLm28me44bU04;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....3..4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4........93.....2..75;117;90100874;QLLGA8me441OG6;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....3..4.2.....3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.......793.....2...5;117;90100874;QLLGA8me441SG4;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2...93.....2..75;117;90100874;QLLm28me44XOG6;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4....2..793.....2...5;117;90100874;QLLm28me44XSG4;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2...93........75;117;90100874;QLLm28me44bO06;168;4
.2.45.7.9.5.7.9.2.....32.4.......3......94...8.1..3.....7...4.2..2..793.........5;117;90100874;QLLm28me44bS04;168;4
.234.6.....678..2.78.....6...4...........3.41...2..9..3.........7.34.8...426.8...;117;183351290;kWJ3Y0W691GBk0;159;6
.234.6.....678..2.78..3..6...4...........3.41...2..9..3.........7..4.8...426.8...;117;183351290;kWJJY0W691GAk0;159;6
.234.........8.........1.......6..47..7...2..9.4...63.3.96...7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;E02W0o4fODUOE5;158;2
.234.........8.........1....3..6..47..7...2..9.4...63...96...7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;E02WGo4fOCUOE5;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1..........47.67...2..9.4...63.3.96...7267....49..429..3..;117;393601720;k02W0m6fODUOE1;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1.......6..47..7...2..9.4...63.3.9....7267....49..429..3..;117;393601720;k02W0o4fO5UOE1;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1.......6..47.67...2..9.4....3.3.9....7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;k02W0o6fG5UOE5;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1....3.....47.67...2..9.4...63...96...7267....49..429..3..;117;393601720;k02WGm6fOCUOE1;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1....3..6..47..7...2..9.4...63...9....7267....49..429..3..;117;393601720;k02WGo4fO4UOE1;158;2
.234.6.......8.........1....3..6..47.67...2..9.4....3...9....7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;k02WGo6fG4UOE5;158;2
1...5.7....678.1..78...35........69..3....8......6...43....5...5.16.8....78.1....;117;493891309;HXBZ1O21YXe5M0;249;6
1...567....678.1..78...35........69.63....8..........43....5...5.16.8....78.1....;117;493891309;nXBZ1O31WXe5M0;249;6
..345...9.5...9..27...23...24.57....3...92....9.3...5.....47.........6....4...8..;117;514931721;SKanO3nGHm0841;168;9
..345...9.5...9..27...23...24.57....3...9.....9.3.2.5.....47.........6....4...8..;117;514932068;SKanO3HGLm0841;168;9
..345...9.5...9..27...23...24.57....3...9.2...9.3...5.....47.........6....4...8..;117;514932068;SKanO3HHHm0841;168;9
.2......94.6.8...2.891....62...4.....9.86....8.19.2........4..8.......71.1....3..;117;527334499;2iYEC2Qe5W4m21;357;9
.2...6..94...8...2.891....626..4.....9.8.....8.19.2........4..8.......71.1....3..;117;527334499;YCYES2Ae5W4m21;357;9
.........4.6...1...891.3...2..3.1..8....9.35....5...21...9..8.5.....829..9.2.5.13;117;531013935;0e8k8bG3n85Sg6;467;1
.........4.6...1...891.3...2..3.1..8....9235....5....1...9..8.5.....829..9.2.5.13;117;531013935;0e8k8bm3X85Sg6;467;1
.........4.6...1...891.3...2..3.19.8.....235.9..5....1...9..8.5.....82.....2.5.13;117;531013935;0e8k8jWBX85Ce6;467;1
.........4.6...1...891.3...2..3.19.8....9.35....5...21...9..8.5.....82...9.2.5.13;117;531013935;0e8k8jG3n85Cg6;467;1
.........4.6...1...891.3...2..3.19.8....9235....5....1...9..8.5.....82...9.2.5.13;117;531013935;0e8k8jm3X85Cg6;467;1
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12...6....57......6.9..21.....83...5.....5.9.....67...7.....9.1..2...56.96..1..27;117;2350637013;Zm0b1ZW261bOJ6;348;5
12...6....57......6.9..21.....83...5....4..9......7...7...2.9.1..2...56.96.51..27;117;2350637013;Zm0b1ZG24HbOR6;348;5
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12...6....57......6.9..21.....83...5....4..9......7...7.5.2.9.1..2....6.96.51..27;117;2350637013;Zm0b1ZG24LbGR6;348;5
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12...6....57......6.9..21.....83...5....4..9.....67...7.....9.1.12...56.96.5...27;117;2350637013;Zm0b1ZG261rOB6;348;5
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12...6....57......6.9..21.....83...5....4..9.5....7...7...2.9.1..2....6.96.51..27;117;2350637013;Zm0b1ZGA4HbGR6;348;5
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.2.4..........9...68.3.2.........1.6.76..182........97.18......7.2.6.9.89..7....2;117;5120588978;A04h0ec3m6eg94;345;2
.2.4..........9...68.3.2........71.6.....182........97.18......7.2.6.9.896.7....2;117;5120588978;A04h0iW3m6egB4;345;2
.2.4..........9...68.3.2........71.6..6..182........97.18......7.2.6.9.89..7....2;117;5120588978;A04h0ia3m6eg94;345;2
1..4..........92..68.3.2.........1.6.7...182........97.18......7.2.6.9.896.7....2;117;5120588978;90Ch0eY3m6egB4;345;2
1..4..........92..68.3.2.........1.6.76..182........97.18......7.2.6.9.89..7....2;117;5120588978;90Ch0ec3m6eg94;345;2
1..4..........92..68.3.2........71.6.....182........97.18......7.2.6.9.896.7....2;117;5120588978;90Ch0iW3m6egB4;345;2
1..4..........92..68.3.2........71.6..6..182........97.18......7.2.6.9.89..7....2;117;5120588978;90Ch0ia3m6eg94;345;2
1..45.........92..68.3..........71.6..6..182........97.18......7.2.6...89..7....2;117;5120588978;P0CB0ia3m6eY94;345;2
1..45.........92..68.3.2.........1.6.7...182........97.18......7.2.6...896.7....2;117;5120588978;P0Ch0eY3m6eYB4;345;2
1..45.........92..68.3.2.........1.6.76..182........97.18......7.2.6...89..7....2;117;5120588978;P0Ch0ec3m6eY94;345;2
1.3.56.8..5.7..1..7..1.3.6....37....53..6....6.7..8..1......2..8.1...95..........;118;10418321;rI9f23Jea0fO00;249;9
1.3.56.8..5.7..1..7..1.3.6...837....53..61...6.7..8..1......2..8.....95..........;118;10418321;rI9fY3pea09O00;249;9
1.3.56.8..5.7..1..78.1.3.6....37....53..61...6.7..8..1......2..8.....95..........;118;10418321;rI9h23pea09O00;249;9
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:13 pm

Now the first chunk of 80 millions puzzles out of the vicinity is closed and the next chunk will not come before one or 2 weeks.

4 387 746 puzzles rating >=10.5 have been added and are in the google drive (file add1v2)
the count per rating of the added puzzles is
Code: Select all
Er   CountOfpuz
105   1816513
106   669535
107   36831
108   105137
109   368122
110   926003
111   438040
112   19229
113   1626
114   1259
115   1717
116   3340
117   384
118   10


we have 113257 solution grids with again a count per solution grid in a wide range

here the highest counts

Code: Select all
rank   CountOfpuz
36476   5210
221166235   5903
555250717   5933
28025617   6220
2528776   6472
14595031   7257
552195024   7493
34444872   7823
20309082   9225
29484484   9759
15526067   11884
34510588   12051


but 9171 solution grids with only one puzzle

the second chunk is expected to come at best end of September.
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby hendrik_monard » Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:43 pm

champagne wrote:I forgot to report on this one coming out of a max expand small run on the solution grids with high ratings;
The list is long, but with a limited number of solution grids

In this batch, these puzzles have a BxB rating with x > 6 :
.234.........8.........1...23..6..47.67...2..9.4...63.3.96...7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;E02W0o4fODUOE5;158;2 B10B
.234.6.......8.........1...23..6..47.67...2..9.4...63.3.96...7267....49..429..3..;117;393601720;k02W0m6fODUOE1;158;2 B10B
.234.6.......8.........1...23..6..47.67...2..9.4...63.3.96...7267....49..429..3.6;117;393601720;k02W0o6fG5UOE5;158;2 B10B
1.3.567...5678.1..78.1.35........69.63....8......6...436...5...5.16.8....78.1....;117;493891309;HXBZ1O21YXe5M0;249;6 B10B new
12.4.6..94.6.89..2.8912...62...4.....9.86....8.19.2.......14..8.......71.1....3..;117;527334499;2iYEC2Qe5W4m21;357;9 B10B new
12.4.6..94.6.89..2.8912...626..4.....9.8.....8.19.2.......14..8.......71.1....3..;117;527334499;YCYES2Ae5W4m21;357;9 B10B
.234...8945....23.9.82..5.4.9..61.......2..9..3..7....3.2...84.58...29.3..9....52;117;4808998760;8UGCH60I25Ra46;167;5 B9B new
.234...8945....23.9.8...5.4.9..61..........9..3..7....3.2...84.58...29.3..9....52;117;4808998760;AUO5160I21Ra46;167;5 B9B

I'll add the 3 new solutions to the datbase tomorrow.
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Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

Postby champagne » Wed Sep 03, 2025 8:17 am

new files for "yzfwsy" in the
    google drive, mix of tridagon and 20-23 clues

    and this file also omitted in the last summary. The update of the drive will come later with 1.5M more puzzles rating >= 10.5

    Code: Select all
    ....5.7.9...7.912....12..6521.96......4.....6.3..........69......1.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;G5TOU34K0OWUg0;348;4
    ....567.9...7.912....12...521.9.......4.....6.3...........9.....61.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;m5TOS14K0GmUg1;348;4
    ....567.9...7.912....12...521.96......4.....6.3..........69......1.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;m5TOS34K0OWUg1;348;4
    ....567.9...7.912....12..6521.9.......4.....6.3..........69.....61.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;m5TOU14K0OmUg0;348;4
    ....567.9...7.912....12..6521.96......4.....6.3...........9.....61.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;m5TOU34K0GmUg0;348;4
    1...5.7.9...7.912.....2..6521.96......4.....6.3..........69......1.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;H5TGU34K0OWUg0;348;4
    1...567.....7.912.....2...52..........4.....6.3.....9.....9.....61.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;n1TGC04KGGmUg1;348;4
    1...567.....7.912.....2...52..........4.....6.3.....9....69......1.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;n1TGC04KGOWUg1;348;4
    1...567.....7.912.....2..652..........4.....6.3.....9....69......1.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n1TGE04KGOWUg0;348;4
    1...567.....7.912.....2..652...6......4.....6.3.....9.....9.....61.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n1TGE24KGGmUg0;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2...52..........4.....6.3.....9.....9.....61.72.5..7.5.16..;117;12139724;n5TGC04KGGmMg1;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2...521.9.......4.....6.3...........9.....61.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;n5TGS14K0GmUg1;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2...521.96......4.....6.3..........69......1.7295..7.5.16..;117;12139724;n5TGS34K0OWUg1;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2..652..........4.....6.3.....9....69.....61.72.5..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n5TGE04KGOmMg0;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2..652...6......4.....6.3.....9.....9.....61.72.5..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n5TGE24KGGmMg0;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2..6521.9.......4.....6.3..........69.....61.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n5TGU14K0OmUg0;348;4
    1...567.9...7.912.....2..6521.96......4.....6.3...........9.....61.7295..7.5.1...;117;12139724;n5TGU34K0GmUg0;348;4
    ...45..8.....891....91.2.4.....1895......42.8...9...1436.2.......2......9.......5;117;550281031;O2Ei2UW5nBW014;367;7
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    Re: Non degenerated tridagon puzzles direct search

    Postby yzfwsf » Wed Sep 03, 2025 9:00 am

    champagne wrote:new files for "yzfwsy" in the
      google drive, mix of tridagon and 20-23 clues
      and this file also omitted in the last summary.

      As you might guess, the B ratings for these puzzles containing tridagon are not high, and gB rating is very time-consuming. So far, only one puzzle with a score of gB27 has been found.
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      1...56......78.....8.1.3.....8.6.3.55.7.1...863.....1.37.....9......52........4..;98

      It should be similar to the secret you found. Perhaps the puzzle containing JE is more likely to have a high B score.
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