great stuff Mike!
How many on top1465 do you do now?
Havard
Mike Barker wrote:There have been several changes since the last time I updated my method hierarchy results. ...
Ocean wrote:1. Gsf's catalog of 651 puzzles from hard threads.
Reasons: Contains many of those that made it to ravel's hardest list, over a long period of time (except a few gaps, for instance the period dml delivered his contributions). The 99.98% is expected to fall drastically, but it would be interesting to see if any of the newer techniques are helpful in cracking previously unsolvable puzzles.
gsf wrote:I wouldn't mind filling in the gaps -- do you have a time range for dml's puzzles
ravel wrote:[Added:] If you want them all (also the ones i have filtered out because my own rating was low): dml posted them between Sun Nov 26 2006 and Sun Jan 14, 2007. But there were a lot of equivalents (including one equivalent to a puzzle Ocean has posted before) and many dont have a "name".
Seems you can solve most of what Explainer calls "Forcing Chains", while not the so-called "Dynamic Forcing Chains" - except when alternative techniques are available; and such cases are interesting.Mike Barker wrote:My experience is that my solver starts to break down around SER 9.0 or 9.1 so saying my solver solved 99.98% should be equivalent to saying that the probability of a puzzle with SER>9.0 is ~.02%.
Mike Barker wrote:Has anyone ever gone through and looked at a probability distribution of puzzle difficultly for randomly generated puzzles?
+---------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
| File |Singles|Tups/XW|xychain| more |
+---------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
| g17 | 46 % | 40 % | 9 % | 5 % |
| gsfhard | 2 % | 2 % | 1 % | 95 % |
| ruud_top50000 | 0 % | 0.2% | 14 % | 86 % |
| fullsym_20s | 38 % | (36 %) | 26 % |
+---------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
| FF (Type I) * | 50 % | 21 % | 13 % | 16 % |
| LL (Type II) | 58 % | 16 % | 12 % | 14 % |
| PP (Type III) | 61 % | 19 % | 12 % | 8 % |
| XX (Type IV) | 51 % | 17 % | 14 % | 18 % |
| RR (Type V) | 60 % | 15 % | 13 % | 12 % |
| HH (Type VI) | 60 % | 19 % | 12 % | 9 % |
| DD (Type VII) | 53 % | 17 % | 14 % | 16 % |
+---------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+
SE Rating Solved Description
1.50 25341 Hidden Single in line
2.00 21227 Direct Hidden Pair
7.10 7761 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (5-6 steps)
7.20 7091 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (7-8 steps)
2.60 6211 Pointing
6.60 5777 Forcing X-chain or Turbot Fish or Bidirectional Y-Cycle (5-6 steps)
4.20 4235 XY-Wing
2.30 3583 Naked Single
4.50 2036 UR Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair
1.20 1928 Hidden Single in box
7.30 1840 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (9-12 steps)
1.70 1595 Direct Pointing
2.80 1499 Claiming
3.00 1252 Naked Pair
8.30 1140 Multiple (9-12 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
2.50 1074 Direct Hidden Triplet
3.40 857 Hidden Pair
5.60 832 BUG Type 1
8.40 650 Multiple (13-16 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
4.40 571 XYZ-Wing
6.69 529 Forcing X-Chain (7-8 steps)
6.80 396 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (9-12 steps)
3.20 211 X-Wing
6.70 193 Bidirectional Y-cycle (7-8 steps)
8.50 191 Multiple (17-24 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
4.60 188 UR Type 3 w/ naked pair or hidden triplet or UL Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair (6 cells)
3.60 180 Naked Triplet
6.90 153 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (13-16 steps)
7.00 152 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (1-4 steps) or Bidirectional Y-cycle (17-24 steps)
8.20 150 Multiple (7-8 steps) Region Forcing Chains
7.60 148 Forcing Chain (25-36 steps) or Nishio Forcing Chain (5-6 steps)
7.80 140 Nishio Forcing Chain (9-12 steps)
8.90 122 Dynamic (13-16 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
5.70 108 BUG Type 2 or 4
7.70 91 Nishio Forcing Chain (7-8 steps)
9.00 91 Dynamic (17-24 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
7.40 86 Forcing Chain (13-16 steps)
4.00 66 Hidden Triplet
8.80 53 Dynamic (9-12 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
7.50 51 Forcing Chain (17-24 steps) or Aligned Triplet Exclusion
6.20 41 Aligned Pair Exclusion
6.50 38 Bidirectional X-Cycle or Bidirectional Y-Cycle (1-4 steps)
7.90 22 Nishio Forcing Chain (13-16 steps)
3.80 22 Swordfish
8.60 19 Multiple (25-36 steps) or Dynamic (5-6 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
9.10 16 Dynamic (25-36 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
4.70 12 UR Type 3 w/ naked triplet or hidden quad or UL Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair (8 cells)
5.00 9 Naked Quad or UL 1 or 2 or 4 (>=10 cells)
8.00 7 Nishio Forcing Chain (17-24 steps)
5.80 4 BUG Type 3 w/ naked pair
5.90 3 BUG Type 3 w/ naked triplet
4.69 2 UL Type 3 w/ a naked pair or hidden triplet (6 cells)
5.40 2 Hidden Quad
8.70 1 Dynamic (7-8 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
9.20 1 Dynamic (37-48 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
6.00 1 BUG Type 3 w/ naked quad
5.20 1 Jellyfish
SE Rating Solved Description
1.20 1928 Hidden Single in box
1.50 25341 Hidden Single in line
1.70 1595 Direct Pointing
2.00 21227 Direct Hidden Pair
2.30 3583 Naked Single
2.50 1074 Direct Hidden Triplet
2.60 6211 Pointing
2.80 1499 Claiming
3.00 1252 Naked Pair
3.20 211 X-Wing
3.40 857 Hidden Pair
3.60 180 Naked Triplet
3.80 22 Swordfish
4.00 66 Hidden Triplet
4.20 4235 XY-Wing
4.40 571 XYZ-Wing
4.50 2036 UR Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair
4.60 188 UR Type 3 w/ naked pair or hidden triplet or UL Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair (6 cells)
4.69 2 UL Type 3 w/ a naked pair or hidden triplet (6 cells)
4.70 12 UR Type 3 w/ naked triplet or hidden quad or UL Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair (8 cells)
5.00 9 Naked Quad or UL 1 or 2 or 4 (>=10 cells)
5.20 1 Jellyfish
5.40 2 Hidden Quad
5.60 832 BUG Type 1
5.70 108 BUG Type 2 or 4
5.80 4 BUG Type 3 w/ naked pair
5.90 3 BUG Type 3 w/ naked triplet
6.00 1 BUG Type 3 w/ naked quad
6.20 41 Aligned Pair Exclusion
6.50 38 Bidirectional X-Cycle or Bidirectional Y-Cycle (1-4 steps)
6.60 5777 Forcing X-chain or Turbot Fish or Bidirectional Y-Cycle (5-6 steps)
6.69 529 Forcing X-Chain (7-8 steps)
6.70 193 Bidirectional Y-cycle (7-8 steps)
6.80 396 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (9-12 steps)
6.90 153 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (13-16 steps)
7.00 152 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (1-4 steps) or Bidirectional Y-cycle (17-24 steps)
7.10 7761 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (5-6 steps)
7.20 7091 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (7-8 steps)
7.30 1840 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (9-12 steps)
7.40 86 Forcing Chain (13-16 steps)
7.50 51 Forcing Chain (17-24 steps) or Aligned Triplet Exclusion
7.60 148 Forcing Chain (25-36 steps) or Nishio Forcing Chain (5-6 steps)
7.70 91 Nishio Forcing Chain (7-8 steps)
7.80 140 Nishio Forcing Chain (9-12 steps)
7.90 22 Nishio Forcing Chain (13-16 steps)
8.00 7 Nishio Forcing Chain (17-24 steps)
8.20 150 Multiple (7-8 steps) Region Forcing Chains
8.30 1140 Multiple (9-12 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.40 650 Multiple (13-16 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.50 191 Multiple (17-24 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.60 19 Multiple (25-36 steps) or Dynamic (5-6 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.70 1 Dynamic (7-8 steps) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.80 53 Dynamic (9-12 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
8.90 122 Dynamic (13-16 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.00 91 Dynamic (17-24 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.10 16 Dynamic (25-36 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.20 1 Dynamic (37-48 steps) CRCD Forcing Chains
4564: 3-element NRCT chain: r7c3 =9= r9c1 -9- r9c7 =9= r5c7 -9- (r6c1)r6c8 =9= r6c5 ~9~ => r7c5<>9
+----------------+--------------+----------------+
| 4 16 136 | 2 136 9 | 5 7 8 |
| 138 5 2 | 18 13 7 | 4 6 9 |
| 7 9 68 | 48 46 5 | 1 23 23 |
+----------------+--------------+----------------+
| 169 3 569 | 159 2 8 | 7 459 146 |
| 1289 16 568 | 159 7 4 | 39* 2359 136 |
| 129x 7 4 | 3 159* 6 | 8 259* 12 |
+----------------+--------------+----------------+
| 5 2 39* | 7 4-9 1 | 6 8 34 |
| 16 8 16 | 459 459 3 | 2 49 7 |
| 39* 4 7 | 6 8 2 | 39* 1 5 |
+----------------+--------------+----------------+
7893: 4-element NRCT chain: r6c3 =5= r3c3 -5- r3c9 -7- (5)r3c7 -3- r6c7 ~7~ r6c3 => r6c3<>7
+---------------------+-----------------+---------------+
| 346 456 1 | 3679 37 47 | 8 359 2 |
| 7 24 8 | 39 12 5 | 6 139 34 |
| 2346 9 456* | 368 12 48 |35x7* 14 57* |
+---------------------+-----------------+---------------+
| 12 12 9 | 38 3578 78 | 4 6 57 |
| 68 5678 3 | 4 567 1 | 257 258 9 |
| 468 45678 456-7* | 2 567 9 | 37* 38 1 |
+---------------------+-----------------+---------------+
| 1468 3 467 | 578 9 2 | 15 45 68 |
| 9 168 26 | 58 4 3 | 125 7 68 |
| 5 478 247 | 1 78 6 | 9 234 34 |
+---------------------+-----------------+---------------+
2 (4148): L_HIDDEN1 'hidden single
3 (1185): L_LOCKED1 'include line/box and box/box eliminations
10 ( 759): L_XWING 'X-wing (basic and finned)
11 ( 478): L_XY 'XY-wing (3-node XY-chain)
4 ( 360): L_NAKED2 'naked pair
35 ( 337): L_XYCHAIN4 '4-node XY-chain
43 ( 330): L_NICE3 '3-element nice loop (strong links/bivalue cells)
41 ( 231): L_XYCHAIN5 '5-node XY-chain
57 ( 224): L_NICE4 '4-element nice loop (strong links/bivalue cells)
42 ( 203): L_ADVANCED3 '3-element advanced coloring
56 ( 201): L_ADVANCED4 '4-element advanced coloring
5 ( 184): L_NAKED3 'naked triple
14 ( 129): L_UNIQUE1 'UR+1 (type 1)
1 ( 99): L_NAKED1 'naked single
45 ( 74): L_STRONG3G '3-element strong nice loop (GSL/BV)
49 ( 72): L_XYCHAIN6 '6-node XY-chain
33 ( 71): L_XYZ 'generalized XYZ-wing (2-3 candidate pilots)
18 ( 66): L_UNIQUE4 'UR+2(X,D,B)/1SL, UR+2C/2SL (types 4/4B,...)
60 ( 64): L_NRCT4 '4-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
74 ( 58): L_NRCT5 '5-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
6 ( 49): L_HIDDEN2 'hidden pair
71 ( 44): L_NICE5 '5-element nice loop (strong links/bivalue cells)
13 ( 40): L_BUG1 'BUG+1 eliminations
70 ( 39): L_ADVANCED5 '5-element advanced coloring
84 ( 39): L_NRCT6 '6-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
12 ( 38): L_EMPTY 'empty rectangle
36 ( 38): L_SWORDFISH 'swordfish (basic and finned)
59 ( 36): L_STRONG4G '4-element strong nice loop (GSL/BV)
55 ( 29): L_XYCHAIN7 '7-node XY-chain
58 ( 29): L_ADVANCED4G '4-element grouped advanced coloring
91 ( 29): L_NRCT7 '7-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
40 ( 27): L_XYRING5 '5-node XY-ring
17 ( 23): L_UNIQUE3 'UR+2X (types 3/3B)
38 ( 23): L_STRONG3 'three strong links (basic and grouped)
15 ( 19): L_UNIQUE2 'UR+2x (types 2/2B)
47 ( 19): L_WXYZ 'generalized WXYZ-wing (2-4 candidate pilots)
23 ( 17): L_BUGLITE2 'basic 2-line BUG-lite
44 ( 17): L_ADVANCED3G '3-element grouped advanced coloring
48 ( 17): L_XYRING6 '6-node XY-ring
26 ( 16): L_STRONG2 'two strong links (basic and grouped)
21 ( 14): L_BUG2 'BUG+n(x,X) eliminations
24 ( 13): L_BUGLITE3 'basic 3-line BUG-lite
94 ( 12): L_NRCT8 '8-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
34 ( 11): L_XYRING4 '4-node XY-ring
72 ( 11): L_ADVANCED5G '5-element grouped advanced coloring
73 ( 10): L_STRONG5G '5-element strong nice loop (GSL/BV)
96 ( 8): L_NRCT9 '9-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
7 ( 7): L_HIDDEN3 'hidden triple
81 ( 6): L_NICE6 '6-element nice loop (strong links/bivalue cells)
97 ( 6): L_NRCT10 '10-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
37 ( 4): L_FRANK3 'Franken Swordfish
80 ( 4): L_ADVANCED6 '6-element advanced coloring
46 ( 3): L_NRCT3 '3-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
54 ( 3): L_XYRING7 '7-node XY-ring
61 ( 3): L_VWXYZ 'generalized VWXYZ-wing (2-5 candidate pilots)
69 ( 2): L_XYCHAIN9 '9-node XY-chain
83 ( 2): L_STRONG6G '6-element strong nice loop (GSL/BV)
88 ( 2): L_NICE7 '7-element nice loop (strong links/bivalue cells)
116 ( 2): L_NICE3G '3-element grouped nice loop (GSL/ALS)
164 ( 2): L_SUM2CELL3 '3-valued/2-element kraken Blossom
185 ( 2): L_SUM2ALS '2-element kraken ALS
8 ( 1): L_NAKED4 'naked quadruple
19 ( 1): L_UNIQUE6 'UR+2r(x,d)
20 ( 1): L_UNIQUE9 'UR+2k(x,d)
22 ( 1): L_BUG3 'strong link BUG eliminations
63 ( 1): L_XYRING8 '8-node XY-ring
64 ( 1): L_XYCHAIN8 '8-node XY-chain
82 ( 1): L_ADVANCED6G '6-element grouped advanced coloring
98 ( 1): L_NRCT11 '11-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
99 ( 1): L_NRCT12 '12-element nrct-chain (strong links/bivalue cells)
110 ( 1): L_ALS1xy 'B=1 cell ALS xy-rule
Top1465
SE Rating Solved Puzzle Description
2.00 5 471 Direct Hidden Pair
2.30 2 1014 Naked Single
2.50 1 1403 Direct Hidden Triplet
2.60 118 58 Pointing
2.80 28 122 Claiming
3.00 33 15 Naked Pair
3.40 99 4 Hidden Pair
3.60 8 14 Naked Triplet
4.00 16 11 Hidden Triplet
4.20 10 158 XY-Wing
4.40 3 701 XYZ-Wing
4.50 22 64 UR Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair
5.60 1 603 BUG Type 1
6.60 68 81 Forcing X-chain or Turbot Fish or Bidirectional Y-Cycle (5-6 nodes)
6.69 6 94 Forcing X-Chain (7-8 nodes)
6.80 1 226 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (9-12 nodes)
6.90 1 755 Forcing X-Chain or Bidirectional Y-cycle (13-16 nodes)
7.10 88 16 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (5-6 nodes)
7.20 93 41 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (7-8 nodes)
7.30 41 134 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (9-12 nodes)
7.40 2 767 Forcing Chain (13-16 nodes)
7.50 5 114 Forcing Chain (17-24 nodes) or Aligned Triplet Exclusion
7.60 23 309 Forcing Chain (25-36 nodes) or Nishio Forcing Chain (5-6 nodes)
7.70 12 266 Nishio Forcing Chain (7-8 nodes)
7.80 28 156 Nishio Forcing Chain (9-12 nodes)
7.90 10 250 Nishio Forcing Chain (13-16 nodes)
8.00 1 1380 Nishio Forcing Chain (17-24 nodes)
8.20 9 481 Multiple (7-8 nodes) Region Forcing Chains
8.30 117 12 Multiple (9-12 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.40 91 42 Multiple (13-16 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.50 53 56 Multiple (17-24 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.60 1 1241 Multiple (25-36 nodes) or Dynamic (5-6 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.70 4 808 Dynamic (7-8 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.80 41 35 Dynamic (9-12 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
8.90 93 38 Dynamic (13-16 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.00 197 1 Dynamic (17-24 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.10 76 29 Dynamic (25-36 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.20 37 7 Dynamic (37-48 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.30 14 89 Dynamic (49-72 nodes) or Dynamic + (9-12 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.40 4 113 Dynamic (73-96 nodes) or Dynamic + (13-16 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.50 1 2 Dynamic + (17-24 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.60 1 3 Dynamic + (25-36 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.80 1 77 Dynamic + (49-72 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
Top10000
SE Rating Solved Puzzle Description
4.60 2 5989 UR Type 3 w/ naked pair or hidden triplet or UL Types 1 or 2 or 4 or 3 w/ hidden pair (6 cells)
7.10 6 1393 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (5-6 nodes)
7.20 17 3097 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (7-8 nodes)
7.30 69 766 Forcing Chain or Bidirectional Cycle (9-12 nodes)
7.40 46 345 Forcing Chain (13-16 nodes)
7.50 26 516 Forcing Chain (17-24 nodes) or Aligned Triplet Exclusion
7.60 10 566 Forcing Chain (25-36 nodes) or Nishio Forcing Chain (5-6 nodes)
7.70 5 3810 Nishio Forcing Chain (7-8 nodes)
7.80 8 186 Nishio Forcing Chain (9-12 nodes)
7.90 2 5343 Nishio Forcing Chain (13-16 nodes)
8.00 1 9439 Nishio Forcing Chain (17-24 nodes)
8.20 71 361 Multiple (7-8 nodes) Region Forcing Chains
8.30 3142 11 Multiple (9-12 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.40 3340 9 Multiple (13-16 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.50 1270 5 Multiple (17-24 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.60 102 45 Multiple (25-36 nodes) or Dynamic (5-6 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.70 28 136 Dynamic (7-8 nodes) Cell/Region Forcing Chains
8.80 244 28 Dynamic (9-12 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
8.90 733 7 Dynamic (13-16 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.00 766 2 Dynamic (17-24 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.10 92 19 Dynamic (25-36 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.20 18 1 Dynamic (37-48 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains
9.30 2 55 Dynamic (49-72 nodes) or Dynamic + (9-12 nodes) CRCD Forcing Chains