Double diagonal symmetric puzzle

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Double diagonal symmetric puzzle

Postby Serg » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:14 pm

Hi, people!
champagne has just published interesting puzzle, having 2 symmetries - diagonal and antidiagonal (see thread The hardest sudokus (new thread) at this forum).
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1 . . . 6 . . . 5
. 9 . . . 2 . 7 .
. . . 8 . . 3 . .
. . 2 1 . . . 4 .
4 . . . . . . . 8
. 8 . . . 9 6 . .
. . 7 . . 4 . . .
. 3 . 6 . . . 1 .
5 . . . 2 . . . 9

The same in line form:
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1...6...5.9...2.7....8..3....21...4.4.......8.8...96....7..4....3.6...1.5...2...9

This puzzle seems to be very difficult if you don't use information about its symmetries. Is it possible to solve it not using information about its symmetries? I couldn't solve it, but I am poor sudoku player. Any takers?

Serg
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Re: Double diagonal symmetric puzzle

Postby champagne » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:07 pm

Serg wrote:Hi, people!
This puzzle seems to be very difficult if you don't use information about its symmetries. Is it possible to solve it not using information about its symmetries? I couldn't solve it, but I am poor sudoku player. Any takers?

Serg


Using symmetry of given, the puzzle is stte to the end, so the challenge is really to solve it without the symmetry of given.

EDIT : using skfr, the puzzle is rated 10.3 10.3 10.2, at the border of "potential hardest puzzles"
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Re: Double diagonal symmetric puzzle

Postby champagne » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:01 am

just for information, I checked that pattern, this puzzle is the only "double diagonal " of the pattern
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