Clueless Flower

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Clueless Flower

Postby enxio27 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:46 pm

This puzzle was posted 10 years ago by Amy Hoffman ("Princess Amy Grace") on Richard Broughton's SudokuSolver forum. I started it a while back but made some mistakes with the pencil marks, so got stuck and set it aside for a while. I picked it back up the other day and fixed the pencil marks. I've solved almost all of the puzzle, but I'm at a standstill with Grid #10, and I'm thinking it may be invalid (multiple solutions). Anyone else want to give it a go, maybe with a solver, and verify? (Any possibility that any of you are still in contact with her and can ask her about the puzzle?)

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Puzzle code:

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Puzzle 1 Disjoint Groups – Tough
 
. 9 6|7 . .|. . .
. . .|5 . 6|. . .
. . .|. . 2|9 8 .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|. . .|. 5 .
9 2 .|. . .|. . 1
. . 5|. . .|6 9 3
-----+-----+-----
6 4 7|. . 5|3 . .
8 . .|. 4 .|. 6 5
. . .|. . .|. . .

Puzzle 2 Jigsaw A (Sumocue - Moonlotus)-

SumoCueV1=1J0=0J0=0J1=8J1=0J1=0J1=0J1=0J2=5J2=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=2J1=0J1=0J2=0J2=0J2=0J3=6J0=0J0=7J0=0J1=4J2=0J2=8J2=0J4=7J3=0J3=0J0=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J2=0J4=4J4=0J3=3J3=0J3=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J4=0J4=0J4=6J3=0J3=0J6=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J7=7J4=0J4=0J3=0J6=8J6=0J6=7J8=0J7=0J7=0J7=0J4=0J6=0J6=0J6=0J8=0J8=0J8=0J7=0J7=9J7=0J6=5J6=0J8=1J8=0J8=8J8=3J8=0J7=0J7

Puzzle 3 Center Dot - Moderate

. . .|7 . .|. . 6
. 6 .|. . .|. . 4
. 9 .|1 . 2|. 7 .
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8 . .|. . .|5 6 1
. . 6|. . .|4 . .
. 2 1|. . .|8 . 3
-----+-----+-----
. 3 .|5 1 .|. 8 .
1 8 .|. . .|. 4 .
9 . .|. . 6|. . .

Puzzle 4 Diagonal – Tough

2 . .|. . 8|9 . .
. . 4|. . 6|. 5 7
. . .|. . .|. 4 .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|. . .|. 3 .
9 . .|. . .|. . 1
. 8 .|. . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
. 2 .|. . .|. . .
5 7 .|6 . .|2 . .
. . 9|2 . .|. . 8

Puzzle 5 Zig-Zags – (in SumoCue, setup two "45" blocks in the zig zag patterns, then paste in the puzzle)

. 5 .|3 . 2|. . .
9 . .|. 4 .|. . 7
3 . 8|. . .|5 . .
-----+-----+-----
5 8 .|. . .|. . 1
. 6 .|. . .|7 2 .
. . 1|. . .|. . 3
-----+-----+-----
. 1 .|. 8 .|3 . .
8 . 5|. . .|2 . 9
. . .|1 . 4|. . .

Puzzle 6 Odd/Even – (unknown how to use solvers with clues given)
Note: Unique Rectangle "OK" as a solving technique for individual puzzle at this time

. 7 .|. . 3|. . .
. . .|5 . 2|. 6 .
2 . .|. . .|. . 8
-----+-----+-----
1 . 9|. . .|7 . .
. . 8|. . .|. 2 .
. . .|. . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|7 . 5|. . 2
. . .|. . .|. . 1
7 6 4|. . .|. 9 .

Puzzle 7 Triplets (All 3 Shaded boxes contain digits 1-9 in the same sequences) (unknown how to use software to solve) - Easy

. . .|2 . .|6 . .
. . .|. . .|. . 1
. . .|. 9 .|. . 5
-----+-----+-----
. . 9|. . .|3 8 .
1 . .|. . .|. . 7
3 . .|. . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
6 . .|. 7 .|. . .
. 5 .|. 4 .|. . .
. . .|. 2 .|. . .

Puzzle 8 Asterisk – Hard

. . .|3 . .|9 . .
5 . .|6 . .|. . 7
. . .|. 7 8|. 6 .
-----+-----+-----
. 7 1|. . .|4 . .
. . .|. . .|. . .
. . 9|. . .|7 2 .
-----+-----+-----
. 9 .|4 1 .|. . .
4 . .|. . 7|. . 2
. . 3|. . 2|. . .

Puzzle 9 Jigsaw "B" (Frames) – Rating Unknown? Tough?

SumoCueV1=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J0=0J1=2J1=0J1=0J1=0J0=0J0=0J2=7J2=0J3=0J3=1J3=0J1=0J1=4J0=1J2=0J2=0J2=0J3=0J3=0J3=7J3=6J1=0J0=5J2=0J2=0J4=0J4=0J4=8J3=0J3=0J1=2J5=0J2=3J2=0J4=0J4=0J4=0J6=0J6=7J1=0J5=0J7=0J7=0J4=0J4=0J4=0J6=3J6=0J8=3J5=4J7=0J7=0J7=2J7=0J6=0J6=8J6=0J8=0J5=0J5=1J7=0J7=3J7=0J6=5J6=0J8=0J8=5J5=0J5=0J5=0J5=0J8=0J8=3J8=0J8=0J8

Puzzle 10 Triangles – (unknown how to put into software) (rating unknown – Moderate?)
6 . .|. 1 .|. . 8
. 8 1|2 . .|. 4 .
. . .|. . 8|1 6 .
-----+-----+-----
. . 8|. . .|. 3 .
1 . .|. . .|. . 6
. 3 .|. . .|8 . .
-----+-----+-----
. 1 7|. . .|2 . .
. 2 .|. . 3|9 8 .
9 . .|8 2 .|. . 7

Puzzle 11 NonConsecutive – (unknown how to put into software) (rating unknown – Easy?)

9 . 1|. 8 .|. . .
. 8 .|. . .|. . 5
. . .|. . .|. 4 .
-----+-----+-----
3 . .|. . .|2 . .
. . 5|. . .|. . 7
. . .|. . .|. . .
-----+-----+-----
. . .|3 . .|7 . .
. 5 .|. . .|. . .
7 . 8|. . .|. 5 .

Puzzle 12 Windoku – Moderate

. . .|. . 6|. 4 .
. . .|5 . 1|. 9 6
. . .|. 9 8|. 7 .
-----+-----+-----
5 1 .|. . .|. . .
. 8 .|. . .|. 5 .
. . .|. . .|. 1 4
-----+-----+-----
. 3 .|4 5 .|. . 9
8 9 .|. 1 3|. . .
. 4 .|9 . .|. . .
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Re: Clueless Flower

Postby enxio27 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:06 pm

Also, Para created and posted a modification of this puzzle so that the outside grids are not solvable by themselves, but I never did get a copy of that puzzle, and the image link is no longer valid.
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Re: Clueless Flower

Postby 1to9only » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:15 pm

enxio27 wrote:Puzzle 10 Triangles – (unknown how to put into software) (rating unknown – Moderate?)
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6 . .|. 1 .|. . 8
. 8 1|2 . .|. 4 .
. . .|. . 8|1 6 .
-----+-----+-----
. . 8|. . .|. 3 .
1 . .|. . .|. . 6
. 3 .|. . .|8 . .
-----+-----+-----
. 1 7|. . .|2 . .
. 2 .|. . 3|9 8 .
9 . .|8 2 .|. . 7


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6 . .|. 1 .|. . 8
. 8 1|2 . .|. 4 .
. . 4|. . 8|1 6 .
-----+-----+-----
. . 8|. . .|. 3 .
1 . .|. . .|. . 6
. 3 .|. . .|8 . .
-----+-----+-----
. 1 7|. . .|2 . .
. 2 .|. . 3|9 8 .
9 . .|8 2 .|. . 7

R ur pencil marks incorrect coz of the missing given at r3c3 (number 4 in image)?

SPOILER ALERT! Grid 10 Solution String Inside!
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679514328381269745254738169768491532195382476432657891817946253526173984943825617
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Re: Clueless Flower

Postby enxio27 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:38 pm

1to9only wrote:R ur pencil marks incorrect coz of the missing given at r3c3 (number 4 in image)?

Bingo! That's it! Thanks! The codes came from Amy (the puzzle creator), and I never did check them over to make sure they were correct.
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Re: Clueless Flower

Postby creint » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:10 pm

Also missing given 3 at odd/even. Odd/even has 2 solutions can find, is there a single solution with logic for this one? All other grids are solved with solver.
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Re: Clueless Flower

Postby enxio27 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:59 am

creint wrote:Also missing given 3 at odd/even. Odd/even has 2 solutions can find, is there a single solution with logic for this one? All other grids are solved with solver.

Hmmm. . . you're right. I managed to solve it without discovering that there is more than one solution. There isn't supposed to be, but unfortunately, the puzzle creator isn't around anymore to fix it. Evidently I came up with the correct answers in the center box, or it would have thrown off the "clueless" flower portion of the puzzle.
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