Why isn't this a X-Chain?

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Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby chitarup » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:28 pm

Hi,

I'm confused, why r6c7:3 -> r6c5:3 ->r1c5:3 ->r1c4:3 ->r4c4:3 => delete c4r8:3 is no X-Chain?

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Please enlight me. :D

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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby Hajime » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:38 pm

chitarup wrote:Hi,

I'm confused, why r6c7:3 -> r6c5:3 ->r1c5:3 ->r1c4:3 ->r4c4:3 => delete c4r8:3 is no X-Chain?


r6c7≠3 -> r6c5=3 ->r1c5≠3 ->r1c4=3 ->r4c4≠3 does not lead to c4r8≠3
So this is not a viable Xchain
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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby Leren » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:57 pm

To be more specific about your error. If r6c7 is not 3 then r6c5 is 3, but this makes 3 cells, r4c4, r4c5 and r1c5 all not 3. Thus, you can't conclude later on that r4c4 is 3, because you've already shown that it isn't 3.

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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby chitarup » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:50 am

Hajime wrote:
chitarup wrote:Hi,

I'm confused, why r6c7:3 -> r6c5:3 ->r1c5:3 ->r1c4:3 ->r4c4:3 => delete c4r8:3 is no X-Chain?


r6c7≠3 -> r6c5=3 ->r1c5≠3 ->r1c4=3 ->r4c4≠3 does not lead to c4r8≠3
So this is not a viable Xchain


Hello Hajime,

ok I understand. That is helpful. Does it mean I would need one strong link more for drawing conclusions? And in general, does it mean that you need always an even number of nodes in a x-chain?
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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby chitarup » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:55 am

Hi Leren,

thank you.

Leren wrote:To be more specific about your error. If r6c7 is not 3 then r6c5 is 3, but this makes 3 cells, r4c4, r4c5 and r1c5 all not 3. Thus, you can't conclude later on that r4c4 is 3, because you've already shown that it isn't 3.

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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby Hajime » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:24 am

chitarup wrote:
ok I understand. That is helpful. Does it mean I would need one strong link more for drawing conclusions? And in general, does it mean that you need always an even number of nodes in a x-chain?


Correct, also see http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/x-chain-optimalisation-t38330.html
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Re: Why isn't this a X-Chain?

Postby schroedermcken » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:27 am

I don't no
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