Think it Over, Think it Under

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Think it Over, Think it Under

Postby shye » Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:21 pm

Code: Select all
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . 7 | . . . | 3 . . |
| 1 8 . | . . . | . 7 2 |
| . . . | 7 . 6 | . . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 2 . 1 | . . . | 7 . 3 |
| . . . | 6 . 3 | . . . |
| 3 9 . | . 7 . | . 8 4 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . . . | . 6 . | . . . |
| 4 . . | . 8 . | . . 5 |
| . . 2 | 3 . 4 | 1 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
..7...3..18.....72...7.6...2.1...7.3...6.3...39..7..84....6....4...8...5..23.41..

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Re: Think it Over, Think it Under

Postby RSW » Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:21 pm

The simplest solution would be a 2 stepper with two x-wings.
Or this 1 step
Code: Select all
 +-------------------+---------------------+-------------------+
 |i569   2456  7     | 124589 12459  12589 |  3    14569 b1689 |
 | 1     8   dh34569 | 459    3459   59    |cg4569 7      2    |
 | 59    2345  3459  | 7      123459 6     |  4589 1459   189  |
 +-------------------+---------------------+-------------------+
 | 2     456   1     | 4589   459    589   |  7    569    3    |
 | 578   457   458   | 6      12459  3     |  259  1259   19   |
 | 3     9    e56    | 125    7      125   | f256  8      4    |
 +-------------------+---------------------+-------------------+
 | 5789  1357  3589  | 1259   6      12579 |  2489 2349   789  |
 | 4     1367  39-6  | 129    8      1279  |  29-6 2369   5    |
 |j56789 57-6  2     | 3      59     4     |  1    9-6   a6789 |
 +-------------------+---------------------+-------------------+

A long looping x-chain with loose ends:
(6)r9c9 = r1c9 - r2c7 = r2c3 - r6c3 = r6c7 - r2c7 = r2c3 - r1c1 = r9c1 => -6r9c28 -6r8c37; stte
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Re: Think it Over, Think it Under

Postby Leren » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:34 pm

Or you can use templating.

Code: Select all
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 569   245-6 7     | 24589 12459  2589  | 3    1459-6 169  |
| 1     8     34569 | 459   3459   59    | 4569 7      2    |
| 59    2345  3459  | 7     123459 6     | 4589 1459   189  |
|-------------------+--------------------+------------------|
| 2     456   1     | 4589  459    589   | 7    569    3    |
| 578   457   458   | 6     2459   3     | 259  1259   19   |
| 3     9     56    | 125   7      125   | 256  8      4    |
|-------------------+--------------------+------------------|
| 5789  1357  3589  | 1259  6      12579 | 2489 2349   789  |
| 4     1367  39-6  | 129   8      1279  | 29-6 2369   5    |
| 56789 57-6  2     | 3     59     4     | 1    9-6    6789 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
Single Digit Template Eliminations - Digit 6 => - 6 r1c28, r8c37, r9c28; stte

A bit too fancy ? Probably :D. Leren
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Re: Think it Over, Think it Under

Postby SteveG48 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:14 am

Or, just for fun:

Code: Select all
 *------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
 |ak569    a2456    7       | 24589   12459   2589    | 3       1459-6  19-6    |
 |  1       8      b3459-6  | 459     3459    59      | 4569    7       2       |
 |  59      2345    3459    | 7       123459  6       | 4589    1459    189     |
 *--------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------|
 |  2      d456     1       | 4589    459     589     | 7     ef569     3       |
 | g578    g457    g458     | 6      h2459    3       |g259    g1259    19      |
 |  3       9    cef56      | 125     7       125     | 256     8       4       |
 *--------------------------+-------------------------+-------------------------|
 |  5789    1357    3589    | 1259    6       12579   | 2489    2349    789     |
 |  4       1367    369     | 129     8       1279    | 269     2369    5       |
 |bj56789   567     2       | 3      i59      4       | 1    cdi69      6789    |
 *------------------------------------------------------------------------------*


6r1c12 = 6r2c3&r9c1 - 6r5c3,r9c8 = (69)r4c2,r9c8 - (6|9)r4c8,r6c3 = 5r4c8&r6c3 - 5r5c12378 = r5c5 - (5=96)r9c58 - 6r9c1 = 6r1c1 => -6 r1c89,r2c3 ; stte

Which is a really crazy way of writing Kraken row 5 on 5's => -6 r1c89,r2c3
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Re: Think it Over, Think it Under

Postby denis_berthier » Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:05 am

RSW wrote:The simplest solution would be a 2 stepper with two x-wings.

Yes, and it's worth writing them explicitly:
Code: Select all
Resolution state after Singles and whips[1]:
   +----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
   ! 569    2456   7      ! 24589  12459  2589   ! 3      14569  169    !
   ! 1      8      34569  ! 459    3459   59     ! 4569   7      2      !
   ! 59     2345   3459   ! 7      123459 6      ! 4589   1459   189    !
   +----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
   ! 2      456    1      ! 4589   459    589    ! 7      569    3      !
   ! 578    457    458    ! 6      2459   3      ! 259    1259   19     !
   ! 3      9      56     ! 125    7      125    ! 256    8      4      !
   +----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
   ! 5789   1357   3589   ! 1259   6      12579  ! 2489   2349   789    !
   ! 4      1367   369    ! 129    8      1279   ! 269    2369   5      !
   ! 56789  567    2      ! 3      59     4      ! 1      69     6789   !
   +----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
192 candidates.


x-wing-in-rows: n6{r2 r6}{c3 c7} ==> r8c7≠6, r8c3≠6
x-wing-in-rows: n6{r4 r8}{c2 c8} ==> r9c8≠6, r9c2≠6, r1c8≠6, r1c2≠6
stte

What this shows is, the second x-wing is totally dependent on the first. A good illustration of the fundamental sequentiality of sudoku solving. Trying to bring this to a 1-step solution produces totally unnatural solutions.
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