SundayTimes No.3: 14/08/05

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SundayTimes No.3: 14/08/05

Postby Bernard Stay » Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:53 pm

It looked to me as though the (only) way to solve this was to invoke an X-wing. Is that so? and are we to expect this do you think?

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Postby Karyobin » Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:08 pm

Post the puzzle and I'll let you know.
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Postby Bernard Stay » Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:40 pm

Karyobin wrote:Post the puzzle and I'll let you know.


Thanks K. Here 'tis:

*9*|**2|5*3
**1|3**|*9*
***|**6|**1
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**9|***|*8*
***|251|***
*5*|***|2**
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4**|9**|***
*1*|**7|4**
9*6|1**|*7*
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Postby Karyobin » Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:22 pm

Yup, I concur. The X-wing crops up in rows & columns 2 & 9 in 2's. No other way past this point as far as I can see. Looks like the Times is moving to the next level.

BRING IT ON!!!
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Postby PaulIQ164 » Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:27 pm

Vaguely irritating that they have to do it on Sundays when I don't get the paper, but nver mind.
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Postby David B » Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:51 pm

I've got a little further and after locating the straightforward entries found a triple in row 9 which lead to 145 in columns 456 but I'm still struggling with x-wings and the reference to rows & columns 2 & 9.

I have 2 8 in row 9 column 9, and 2 6 8 in row 7 column 9 am I in the right place and where do I look next.
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Postby simes » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:43 pm

Look where 2 can go in rows two and nine. There are only two possibilities, and they're both in the same columns. This is the xwing.

Both rows two and nine must each have a 2, but they can't be in the same column. So how many places can they go? We've determined that the 2 in columns 2 and 9 must be in rows 2 and 9. So we can eliminate any other 2s in these columns. I suspect that's as clear as mud:(

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Postby David B » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:46 pm

Thank you Simes, your explanation is clear.

I may be missing something fundamental but I can see the two possibilities in row 9, but I have three possibilities in row 2: 2,9 and 1. I have reached
*9*|*12|5*3
**1|3**|*9*
***|596|**1
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**9|***|*85
***|251|9**
*5*|**9|2**
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4**|9**|***
*1*|**7|4*9
9*6|145|*7*

It looks to me as if row 2 column 1 could be 2, 5, 6 , 7 or 8
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Postby simes » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:52 am

But how many cells in row 2 can be 5?

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Postby David B » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:52 am

Simes - thanks too obvious but I missed it!
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