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|.3.|.9.|.72|
|..7|...|8..|
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Steve Stumble IX
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Steve Stumble IX
by SteveG48 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:20 pm
Here's another that I encountered in our local newspaper this morning:
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by ArkieTech » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:57 pm
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*-----------------------------------------------------------*
| 6 5789 b59 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 c5789 |
| 4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578 |
| 589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 3 589 6 | 58 27 4 | 1 2589 d589-7 |
| 578 4 a25 | 1 3 9 |a27 6 578 |
| 5789 1 259 | 58 27 6 | 3 2589 4 |
*-----------------------------------------------------------*
[(7=5)r8c37-(5=9)r1c3-r1c9=9r7c9]-7r7c9;
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| 6 5789 5-9 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 5789 |
| 4 578 3 | 9 6 1 | 2 58 578 |
|a589 2 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 b589 3 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
|-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
| 3 589 6 | 58 7 4 | 1 2 589 |
| 58 4 2 | 1 3 9 | 7 6 58 |
| 7 1 d59 | 58 2 6 | 3 c589 4 |
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[9r3c1=r3c8-r9c8=r9c3]-9r1c3; ste
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by JC Van Hay » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:19 pm
30 Singles; 7C1 - 7r7c2;
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+-----------------------+---------------+-------------------+
| 6 5789 5(9) | 2 58 3 | 4 1 578(9) |
| 4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578 |
| 589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3 |
+-----------------------+---------------+-------------------+
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
+-----------------------+---------------+-------------------+
| 3 258-9 6 | 58 258(7) 4 | 1 2589 58(79) |
| 578 4 25 | 1 3 9 | 27 6 578 |
| 58-9(7) 1 25(9) | 58 258(7) 6 | 3 258-9 4 |
+-----------------------+---------------+-------------------+
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by bat999 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:24 pm
It took me many steps to solve the puzzle. 
I've looked at ArkieTech's solution.
The first step...
[(7=5)r8c37-(5=9)r1c3-r1c9=9r7c9]-7r7c9
I am not so sophisticated.
I suppose it is a condensed version of this...
(7=2)r8c8 - (2=5)r8c3 - (5=9)r1c3 - (9)r1c9 = (9)r7c9 => r7c9 <> 7
It could also be achieved using one of those Type 3 Discontinuous Nice Loops (just sayin').
"If r7c9 is not 9 then r7c9 is not 7"
[r7c9]=9=[r1c9]-9-[r1c3]-5-[r8c3]-2-[r8c5]-7-[r7c9] => r7c9<>7
I've looked at ArkieTech's solution.
The first step...
[(7=5)r8c37-(5=9)r1c3-r1c9=9r7c9]-7r7c9
I am not so sophisticated.
I suppose it is a condensed version of this...
(7=2)r8c8 - (2=5)r8c3 - (5=9)r1c3 - (9)r1c9 = (9)r7c9 => r7c9 <> 7
It could also be achieved using one of those Type 3 Discontinuous Nice Loops (just sayin').
"If r7c9 is not 9 then r7c9 is not 7"
[r7c9]=9=[r1c9]-9-[r1c3]-5-[r8c3]-2-[r8c5]-7-[r7c9] => r7c9<>7
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.------------------.-----------.-------------------.
| 6 5789 c59 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 b5789 |
| 4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578 |
| 589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3 |
:------------------+-----------+-------------------:
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
:------------------+-----------+-------------------:
| 3 589 6 | 58 27 4 | 1 2589 a589-7 |
| 578 4 d25 | 1 3 9 | e27 6 578 |
| 5789 1 259 | 58 27 6 | 3 2589 4 |
'------------------'-----------'-------------------'
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by Leren » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:20 pm
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| 6 5789 Bf5-9d | 2 58 3 | 4 1 e5789 |
| 4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578 |
| 589c 2589c 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589b 3 |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
|--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------|
| 3 589 6 | 58 c27 4 | 1 2589 d5789 |
| 578 4 25 | 1 3 9 | 27 6 578 |
|a5789 1 A259 | 58 b27 6 | 3 2589a 4 |
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Kraken Row 9 Digit 9 :
9 r9c1 - 7 r9c1 = r9c5 - r7c5 = (7-9) r7c9 = r1c9 - 9 r1c3;
9 r9c3 - 9 r1c3;
9 r9c8 - r3c8 = r3c12 - 9 r1c3; => - 9 r1c3; stte
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by SteveG48 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:29 pm
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| 6 5789 5-9 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 ab5789 |
| 4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578 |
| 589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3 |
*-------------------+-------------------+--------------------|
| 1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2 |
| 59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6 |
| 2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1 |
*-------------------+-------------------+--------------------|
| 3 a589 6 | 58 27 4 | 1 2589 ab5789 |
|b578 4 25 | 1 3 9 |b27 6 b578 |
|b5789 1 c259 | 58 27 6 | 3 2589 4 |
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Kraken box 7 on 9's => -9 r1c3:
9b7p2 - r7c9 = r1c9 - 9r1c3
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(9-7)b7p7 = r8c1 - r8c79 = (7-9)r7c9 = r1c9 - 9r1c3
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9b7p9 - 9r1c3
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by pjb » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:29 pm
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6 5789 5-9 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 a5789
4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578
589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2
59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6
2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
3 589 6 | 58 c27 4 | 1 2589 b5789
578 4 25 | 1 3 9 | 27 6 578
e5789 1 f259 | 58 d27 6 | 3 2589 4
(9)r1c9 = (9-7)r7c9 = r7c5 - r9c5 = (7-9)r9c1 = r9c3 => -9 r1c3; stte
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r9c8
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by SteveG48 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:46 pm
pjb wrote:
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6 5789 5-9 | 2 58 3 | 4 1 a5789
4 2578 3 | 9 6 1 | 27 258 578
589 2589 1 | 4 58 7 | 6 2589 3
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
1 3 4 | 6 9 8 | 5 7 2
59 59 7 | 3 1 2 | 8 4 6
2 6 8 | 7 4 5 | 9 3 1
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
3 589 6 | 58 c27 4 | 1 2589 b5789
578 4 25 | 1 3 9 | 27 6 578
e5789 1 f259 | 58 d27 6 | 3 2589 4
(9)r1c9 = (9-7)r7c9 = r7c5 - r9c5 = (7-9)r9c1 = r9c3 => -9 r1c3; stte
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r9c8
Phil
(9)r1c9 = (9-7)r7c9 = r7c5 - r9c5 = (7-9)r9c1 = r9c3 => -9 r1c3; stte
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r9c8
Phil, I think you meant r9c2 in the side chain.
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by pjb » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:11 pm
Steve
I think it's OK. The 9 at r9c8 is false because the 9 at r7c9 is true. This allows the 9 at r9c3 to be true when the 9 at r9c1 is made false.
Phil
I think it's OK. The 9 at r9c8 is false because the 9 at r7c9 is true. This allows the 9 at r9c3 to be true when the 9 at r9c1 is made false.
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by SteveG48 » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:21 am
Actually, I meant to say r7c2. 
You have to do something about the 9 there to allow the conclusion that r9c3 is true. I thought that was the purpose of the side chain.
You have to do something about the 9 there to allow the conclusion that r9c3 is true. I thought that was the purpose of the side chain.Steve
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Re: Steve Stumble IX
by pjb » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:43 am
Steve
Thank you for that. I did overlook r7c2. The chain should be
Phil
Thank you for that. I did overlook r7c2. The chain should be
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(9)r1c9 = (9-7)r7c9 = r7c5 - r9c5 = (7-9)r9c1 = r9c3 => -9 r1c3; stte
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r9c8, r7c2
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