September 28, 2015

Post puzzles for others to solve here.

September 28, 2015

Postby ArkieTech » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:16 pm

Code: Select all
 *-----------*
 |...|1..|2..|
 |...|54.|...|
 |..5|.6.|.1.|
 |---+---+---|
 |...|.2.|.7.|
 |91.|.8.|4..|
 |37.|.56|.9.|
 |---+---+---|
 |7..|...|8..|
 |.5.|.3.|9..|
 |..8|...|..6|
 *-----------*


Play/Print this puzzle online
dan
User avatar
ArkieTech
 
Posts: 3355
Joined: 29 May 2006
Location: NW Arkansas USA

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby pjb » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:44 pm

Code: Select all
 468     346     9      | 1      7      38     | 2      68     5     
 1       26      7      | 5      4      28     | 3      68     9     
a28      23      5      | 23-8   6      9      | 7      1      4     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
 5       8       4      | 9      2      1      | 6      7      3     
 9       1       6      | 37     8      37     | 4      5      2     
 3       7       2      | 4      5      6      | 1      9      8     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
 7       246     3      | 26     9      5      | 8      24     1     
 246     5       1      |d268    3     c248    | 9      24     7     
a24      9       8      |  27     1    b247    | 5      3      6     

(8=4)r39c1 - r9c6 = (4-8)r8c6 = r8c4 => -8 r3c4; stte

Phil
pjb
2014 Supporter
 
Posts: 2585
Joined: 11 September 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby Leren » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:01 am

Code: Select all
*--------------------------------------------------------------*
| 468   346   9      | 1     7    b38     | 2     68    5      |
| 1     26    7      | 5     4    b28     | 3     68    9      |
|a28    23    5      | 23-8  6     9      | 7     1     4      |
|--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
| 5     8     4      | 9     2     1      | 6     7     3      |
| 9     1     6      | 37    8    b37     | 4     5     2      |
| 3     7     2      | 4     5     6      | 1     9     8      |
|--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
| 7     246   3      | 26    9     5      | 8     24    1      |
| 246   5     1      | 268   3     248    | 9     24    7      |
|a24    9     8      | 27    1    b247    | 5     3     6      |
*--------------------------------------------------------------*

ALS XZ Rule: X = 4, Z = 8: (8=4) r39c1 - (4=8) r1259c6 => - 8 r3c4; stte

Leren
Leren
 
Posts: 5050
Joined: 03 June 2012

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby Marty R. » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:40 am

Code: Select all
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 468 346 9 | 1   7 38  | 2 68 5 |
| 1   26  7 | 5   4 28  | 3 68 9 |
| 28  23  5 | 238 6 9   | 7 1  4 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 5   8   4 | 9   2 1   | 6 7  3 |
| 9   1   6 | 37  8 37  | 4 5  2 |
| 3   7   2 | 4   5 6   | 1 9  8 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 7   246 3 | 26  9 5   | 8 24 1 |
| 246 5   1 | 268 3 248 | 9 24 7 |
| 24  9   8 | 27  1 247 | 5 3  6 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+

Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site

Leren has played ALS XZ rule twice in a row; I looked for one both days and came up empty. :oops:

DP (24) r89c16, mix of internal and external. The two possibilities yield a common outcome.

6r8c1=2r2c6

6r8c1-r7c2=r7c4-(6=2378)r3579-r2c6=8r2c8
2r2c6-(2=68)r2c28=> 8r2c8
Marty R.
 
Posts: 1508
Joined: 23 October 2012
Location: Rochester, New York, USA

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby SteveG48 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:19 am

Code: Select all
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 | 468  346  9    | 1    7    38   | 2    68   5    |
 | 1    26   7    | 5    4    28   | 3    68   9    |
 | 8-2 c23   5    |c238  6    9    | 7    1    4    |
 *----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 5    8    4    | 9    2    1    | 6    7    3    |
 | 9    1    6    | 37   8    37   | 4    5    2    |
 | 3    7    2    | 4    5    6    | 1    9    8    |
 *----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 7    246  3    |b26   9    5    | 8    24   1    |
 | 246  5    1    |b268  3    248  | 9    24   7    |
 |a24   9    8    |b27   1   b247  | 5    3    6    |
 *--------------------------------------------------*


(2=4)r9c1 - (4=2678)b8p1479 - (8=23)r3c24 => -2 r3c1 ; stte
Steve
User avatar
SteveG48
2019 Supporter
 
Posts: 4279
Joined: 08 November 2013
Location: Orlando, Florida

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby Leren » Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:19 am

Marty R wrote :Leren has played ALS XZ rule twice in a row; I looked for one both days and came up empty
.
Here are some links to explanations of the ALS XZ rule, ALS XY Wings etc.

The first one is on this forum and apparently was the original discovery of the method. The second link is on the Hodoku site which, as usual, provides nice worked examples. The third link is to Andrew Stuart's site, which is also pretty good with worked examples.

http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/viewtopic.php?t=2510

http://hodoku.sourceforge.net/en/tech_als.php#axz

http://www.sudokuwiki.org/Almost_Locked_Sets

Leren
Leren
 
Posts: 5050
Joined: 03 June 2012

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby eleven » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:25 am

Marty R. wrote:6r8c1-r7c2=r7c4-(6=2378)r3579-r2c6=8r2c8

That's a mistake.
I only got 6r8c1 from the UR, which does not help much.
eleven
 
Posts: 3106
Joined: 10 February 2008

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby bat999 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:39 am

Code: Select all
.--------------.----------------.----------.
|  468  346  9 |  1    7   38   | 2  68  5 |
|  1    26   7 |  5    4   28   | 3  68  9 |
| c28   23   5 | b238  6   9    | 7  1   4 |
:--------------+----------------+----------:
|  5    8    4 |  9    2   1    | 6  7   3 |
|  9    1    6 |  37   8   37   | 4  5   2 |
|  3    7    2 |  4    5   6    | 1  9   8 |
:--------------+----------------+----------:
|  7    246  3 |  26   9   5    | 8  24  1 |
|  246  5    1 | a268  3  e24-8 | 9  24  7 |
| c24   9    8 |  27   1  d247  | 5  3   6 |
'--------------'----------------'----------'
(8)r8c4 = r3c4 - (8=4)r39c1 - r9c6 = (4)r8c6 => -8 r8c6; stte
8-)
8-)
bat999
2017 Supporter
 
Posts: 677
Joined: 15 September 2014
Location: UK

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby Ngisa » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:38 pm

Code: Select all
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 468 346 9 | 1   7 a38  | 2 68 5 |
| 1   26  7 | 5   4 a28  | 3 68 9 |
| c28  23  5 | b238 6 9   | 7 1  4 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 5   8   4 | 9   2 1   | 6 7  3 |
| 9   1   6 | 37  8 37  | 4 5  2 |
| 3   7   2 | 4   5 6   | 1 9  8 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+
| 7   246 3 | 26  9 5   | 8 24 1 |
| 246 5   1 | 268 3 f24-8 | 9 24 7 |
| d24  9   8 | 27  1 e247 | 5 3  6 |
+-----------+-----------+--------+
Almost like bat999
(8)r12c6=r3c4-(8=2)r3c1-(2=4)r9c1-r9c6=(4)r8c6 => -8r8c6; stte

Clement
Ngisa
 
Posts: 1386
Joined: 18 November 2012

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby Marty R. » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:46 pm

eleven wrote:
Marty R. wrote:6r8c1-r7c2=r7c4-(6=2378)r3579-r2c6=8r2c8

That's a mistake.
I only got 6r8c1 from the UR, which does not help much.


I don't know what you're calling a mistake and I don't understand the 2nd sentence.
Marty R.
 
Posts: 1508
Joined: 23 October 2012
Location: Rochester, New York, USA

Re: September 28, 2015

Postby eleven » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:54 pm

6r8c1-r7c2=r7c4-(6=2378)r3579-r2c6=8r2c8

The chain is wrong, from 6r8c1 it does not follow 8r2c8.
Look at 6r7c4-(6=2378)r3579, which probably should say 6r7c4-(6=2378)r3579c4, but if r7c4=6, it is also in r3579c4.

My way to show r8c1=6 is simply
2r2c6-(2=6)r2c2-r7c2=6r8c1
(so in both cases r8c1 must be 6).
eleven
 
Posts: 3106
Joined: 10 February 2008


Return to Puzzles