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same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby urhegyi » Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:29 pm

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2.....8...7...4.2....6....4..2..36...1..5...98.....14..3...9.....6.7...14..8...7. ED=7.3/7.2/7.1
2.....8...7...4.2....6....4..2..36...1..5..9.8.....14..3...9.....6.7...14..8...7. ED=8.4/7.2/7.1
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby Hajime » Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:06 pm

Same pattern 1 digit different
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1..2..3...7..6..2.4..7..6....7..6..4.4..2..8...8..5..3.8..3..5.5..9..1....4..1..2   ED=3.0/1.2/1.2
1..2..3...7..6..2.4..7..6....7..6..4.4..2..8...8..5..3.9..3..5.5..9..1....4..1..2   ED=7.3/1.2/1.2
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby m_b_metcalf » Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:54 pm

Hajime wrote:Same pattern 1 digit different

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1.....2...3..2......4..3..5.....67...6..1..8...53....97..9..4......3..1...3..5..2   ED=1.7/1.5/1.5   
1.....2...3..2......4..3..5.....67...6..1..8...53....97..9..4......8..1...3..5..2   ED=9.1/1.2/1.2


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1...2.....3...45....67...8...8....2.9.......1.4....3...5...9..4..21...6.....3.7..   ED=3.4/3.4/3.4   
1...2.....3...45....67...8...8....4.9.......1.4....3...5...9..4..21...6.....3.7..   ED=9.2/9.2/3.4 


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1..2....3.4..3......2..56..2..5..7...6.....8...1..2..5..89..3......4..7.9....1..6   ED=4.6/4.0/3.4   
1..2....3.4..3......2..56..2..5..7...6.....8...1..7..5..89..3......4..7.9....1..6   ED=9.3/9.3/3.4 


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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby JPF » Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:53 pm

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9876.........958.......4...83....27.7.9...6.3.26....896..2..3..29.3.67.8.73...... ED=11.8/1.2/1.2  hendrik_monard
9876.........951.......4...83....27.7.9...6.3.26....896..2..3..29.3.67.8.73...... ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby m_b_metcalf » Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:18 am

Same puzzle, 1 clue moved, much harder:
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 . . . . . 1 . . 2
 . . 3 . 4 . . 5 .
 . 6 . 5 . . 7 . .
 . . 4 . . . . 3 .
 . 1 . . 2 . . . .
 7 . . . . 8 4 . .
 . . 9 . . 5 6 . .
 . 5 . 3 . . . 7 .
 8 . . . 6 7 . . .   ED=1.2/1.2/1.2

 . . . . . 1 . . 2
 . . 3 . 4 . . 5 .
 . 6 . 5 . . 7 . .
 . . 4 . . . . 3 .
 . 1 . . 2 . . . 7
 7 . . . . 8 4 . .
 . . 9 . . 5 6 . .
 . 5 . 3 . . . 7 .
 8 . . . 6 . . . .   ED=10.2/10.0/ 9.5


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 . . . . . . . . 1
 . . . . . 2 . 3 4
 2 3 5 . . . 6 . .
 . 7 . . 2 5 8 . 6
 5 . 6 . . . . . .
 8 2 . 3 . 6 7 . .
 . 8 7 2 5 . . 6 .
 3 5 . 6 . 7 . . .
 6 . 2 . . 8 3 . .   ED=1.5/1.2/1.2

 . . . . . . . . 1
 . . . . . 2 . 3 4
 2 3 5 . . . 6 . .
 . 7 3 . 2 5 8 . 6
 5 . 6 . . . . . .
 8 2 . 3 . 6 7 . .
 . 8 7 2 5 . . 6 .
 3 5 . 6 . 7 . . .
 6 . 2 . . 8 . . .   ED=11.8/11.8/2.6
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby philvo » Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:54 am

Very interesting to see how only one digit can change difficulty !
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby eleven » Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:03 pm

The last pair looks very impressing, however the 11.8 can be solved immediately with the easy-to-spot TH (149) move r7c6=3.
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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby m_b_metcalf » Fri Apr 14, 2023 8:56 am

eleven wrote:The last pair looks very impressing, however the 11.8 can be solved immediately with the easy-to-spot TH (149) move r7c6=3.

This one is less yielding:
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........1.....2.34..4.1356...2.....3.3..562..7.8.3.....1.3.542..2..64.15.4.1..3.6  ED=1.5/1.2/1.2
........1.....2.34..4.1356...2.....3.3..56...7.8.3.....1.3.542..2..64.15.4.12.3.6  ED=11.8/2.0/2.0


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Re: same puzzle 1 clue moved much harder

Postby eleven » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:41 pm

Not really, TH (or tridagon) 789 (b2389) -> 2r3c9, then singles.
But i would not like to solve the 10.2 puzzle above manually ...
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