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Advanced methods and approaches for solving Sudoku puzzles

please help me

Postby lizpun » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:29 pm

- - - - 9 2 4 - -
- 5 - - - - - 3 -
2 - - 6 - 5 - - -
4 - 9 - - - 6 - -
3 - - - 1 - - - 7
- - 2 - - - 3 - 8
- - - 3 - 4 - - 9
- 2 - - - - - 6 -
- - 1 7 8 - - - -

I have been set the task by a guy at work and I really cant do it can anyone help me please. I have 3 more to do as well.

Liz
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Postby Sue De Coq » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:38 pm

There are several sites out there that might help you, e.g. http://act365.com/sudoku.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:33 am

Liz

Can you try to do the elementary ones first. There are quite a few of simple ones to fill in.
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Postby Ianac » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:57 am

In box 8 there is a single (5) which leads to naked pair ( 1, 9 ). After a few eliminations such as R4C6 you will find a naked pair in box 7. Then it is plain sailing. Good luck
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Postby lizpun » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:15 am

thanks for that but i dont know what a naked pair is and i dont understand the r4c9 or what ever you wrote. sorry
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Postby Karyobin » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:26 am

So, you go to work and someone gives you puzzles?! I'm impressed, but may I suggest a bit of pragmatism:

1. If it's part of your job to do this, then take all the time you want while at work and learn to do them - and get paid for it!

2. If it's not part of your job, then either:

(a) cheat and bung all the clues into a solver,
(b) tell whoever gave it to you to go and ........ while they ........ with a ........
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Postby SteveF » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:32 am

Can I suggest you go to one (or better still both) of these sites:

http://www.angusj.com/sudoku/hints.php

and

http://www.simes.clara.co.uk/programs/sudoku.htm

They give some excelent descriptions of the various solving techniques, invaluable for a newbie.

However to get you started, you should be able to put 1 in r3c9 and 5 in r8c5. In both cases it is the only value that can go in the cell.

If you now look in box 8, cells r8c4 and r8c6 can only have the values 1 or 9 (ie the form a naked pair). This means that 1 and 9 cannot go in any other cell in box 8, ie r9c6 cannot be 9. Therefore c9r6 must be 6.
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Postby lizpun » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:34 am

what is r3 and c9??
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Postby SteveF » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:46 am

I guess r3 means row 3 and c9 means column 9.

However I wrote r3c9, which means the cell located at row 3 column 9.

As I said last time, if you are interested in solving, I strongly recommend doing some reading up. If you want to impress some guy at work, get a solver program (available at both web sites I posted previously).
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Postby lizpun » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:19 am

Thanks Steve. I have solved my puzzle
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Postby Karyobin » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:58 am

Wow. From beginner to accomplished in a thread. We can use this to beat the Creationists - Evolution can be observed!
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Postby Jeff » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:28 am

Liz, now that you have understood the basic, I suggest you go to here to practice on the easy ones. It's good fun.
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