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Postby JPF » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:11 pm

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 . 1 . | . . . | . . .
 2 . . | . . . | 3 . .
 . . . | 4 . 5 | 6 7 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 6 | 8 . 4 | 5 . .
 . . . | . . . | . . .
 . . 3 | 6 . 7 | 2 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 8 1 | 3 . 2 | . . .
 . . 4 | . . . | . 5 .
 . . . | . . . | . . 9       ED=4.4/3.4/3.4


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Postby gsf » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:12 pm

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. 5 . . . . . . .
4 . . . . . 9 . .
. . . 1 . 2 3 4 .
. . 2 3 . 9 5 . .
. . . . . . . . .
. . 8 4 . 6 1 . .
. 3 6 5 . 7 . . .
. . 1 . . . . 8 .
. . . . . . . . 7  ED=5.0/3.4/3.4
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Postby JPF » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:22 pm

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 . 1 . | . . . | . . .
 2 . . | . . . | 3 . .
 . . . | 4 . 5 | 6 7 .
-------+-------+-------
 . . 3 | 8 . 6 | 1 . .
 . . . | . . . | . . .
 . . 5 | 7 . 2 | 9 . .
-------+-------+-------
 . 8 2 | 6 . 1 | . . .
 . . 7 | . . . | . 5 .
 . . . | . . . | . . 9       ED=5.7/3.4/3.4


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Postby gsf » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:22 pm

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. 6 . . . . . . .
9 . . . . . 5 . .
. . . 1 . 2 3 4 .
. . 4 8 . 3 6 . .
. . . . . . . . .
. . 9 4 . 5 7 . .
. 8 3 5 . 4 . . .
. . 6 . . . . 5 .
. . . . . . . . 8  ED=5.6/3.4/3.4
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Postby Pat » Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:52 am

on p.338, Mauricio wrote:
on p.323, Pat (Jul.13) wrote:
Mauricio wrote:these should have ED>=9.5


so you are able to pre-rate them
before going into SuDoku Explainer ?

That is correct. SE comsumes so much time rating puzzles that being able to predict to some degree the ED rating of SE is very useful.

Without throwing away trade secrets, I can only say that I can identify whether the first move is a box single(ED=1.2), row/column single(ED=1.5) or naked single(ED=1.7,2.0,2.3).



thanks, Mauricio,

identifying an initial "single"
is indeed important
    and yes, this hasn't given away any secret
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game 43 -- 1.7

Postby Pat » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:21 am

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 . 9 . . . . . . .
 8 . . . . . 9 . .
 . . . 2 . 4 1 3 .
 . . 4 6 . 7 2 . .
 . . . . . . . . .
 . . 7 5 . 3 6 . .
 . 4 2 3 . 1 . . .
 . . 5 . . . . 7 .
 . . . . . . . . 4           ED=1.7/1.2/1.2

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Postby gsf » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:51 am

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. 1 . . . . . . .
2 . . . . . 3 . .
. . . 2 . 4 5 6 .
. . 4 6 . 7 2 . .
. . . . . . . . .
. . 7 3 . 5 1 . .
. 5 6 9 . 1 . . .
. . 2 . . . . 8 .
. . . . . . . . 9  ED=9.1/9.1/3.4
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Postby JPF » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:36 pm

::: resign :::
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Postby Pat » Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:54 pm

::: resign :::
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Postby gsf » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:40 pm

::: resign :::
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Postby g.r.emlin » Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:54 pm

::: game 0043 status :::
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game 0043 2008-07-25+19:16:00-0000 duration 3d16h dealer coloin pages 336-339 (open) 4 players 3 resigned
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    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            4.0/4.0/3.4 gsf            6.8/6.8/3.4 JPF            8.6/8.6/3.4 gsf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf            4.2/4.2/3.0 gsf            7.1/7.1/3.4 JPF            8.7/8.7/3.0 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.4/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.2/7.2/3.4 JPF            8.8/1.2/1.2 coloin
    2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF            4.5/4.5/3.4 gsf            7.3/7.3/3.4 JPF            8.9/8.9/3.4 gsf
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            4.6/4.6/3.4 gsf            7.4/7.4/3.4 JPF            9.0/9.0/3.4 gsf
    2.5/2.3/2.3 JPF            5.0/3.4/3.4 gsf            7.5/7.5/3.4 gsf            9.1/9.1/3.4 gsf
    3.0/3.0/3.0 gsf            5.4/5.4/3.4 gsf            7.6/7.6/3.4 gsf            9.2/9.2/3.4 JPF
    3.2/3.0/3.0 JPF            5.6/3.4/3.4 gsf            8.2/7.3/3.4 JPF            9.3/2.3/2.3 JPF
    3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf            5.7/3.4/3.4 JPF            8.3/8.3/3.4 JPF            9.4/2.0/2.0 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.0 gsf            6.6/6.6/3.4 gsf            8.4/8.4/3.4 JPF
    3.8/3.4/3.4 gsf            6.7/6.7/3.4 JPF            8.5/8.5/3.4 gsf
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 2.6 2.8 4.7 4.8 5.1 5.2 5.8-6.2 6.5 6.9 7.0 7.7-8.1 9.5-10.7

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          coloin        1      9    55m59s  dealer
             Pat        1     45     5h51m  resigned
             JPF       17    865     3h43m  pearl*13,highest-rating,resigned
             gsf       23   1166    19m02s  diamond*2,pearl*18,last-entry,resigned
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4       42   2085            diamond*2,pearl*31,resigned*3
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Postby g.r.emlin » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:00 pm

::: game 0043 closed (all players resigned) :::
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game 0043 2008-07-25+19:16:00-0000 duration 3d16h dealer coloin pages 336-339 (open) 4 players 3 resigned
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    1.2/1.2/1.2 gsf            4.0/4.0/3.4 gsf            6.8/6.8/3.4 JPF            8.6/8.6/3.4 gsf
    1.5/1.5/1.5 gsf            4.2/4.2/3.0 gsf            7.1/7.1/3.4 JPF            8.7/8.7/3.0 gsf
    1.7/1.2/1.2 Pat            4.4/3.4/3.4 JPF            7.2/7.2/3.4 JPF            8.8/1.2/1.2 coloin
    2.0/2.0/2.0 JPF            4.5/4.5/3.4 gsf            7.3/7.3/3.4 JPF            8.9/8.9/3.4 gsf
    2.3/2.3/2.3 gsf            4.6/4.6/3.4 gsf            7.4/7.4/3.4 JPF            9.0/9.0/3.4 gsf
    2.5/2.3/2.3 JPF            5.0/3.4/3.4 gsf            7.5/7.5/3.4 gsf            9.1/9.1/3.4 gsf
    3.0/3.0/3.0 gsf            5.4/5.4/3.4 gsf            7.6/7.6/3.4 gsf            9.2/9.2/3.4 JPF
    3.2/3.0/3.0 JPF            5.6/3.4/3.4 gsf            8.2/7.3/3.4 JPF            9.3/2.3/2.3 JPF
    3.4/3.4/3.4 gsf            5.7/3.4/3.4 JPF            8.3/8.3/3.4 JPF            9.4/2.0/2.0 JPF
    3.6/3.6/3.0 gsf            6.6/6.6/3.4 gsf            8.4/8.4/3.4 JPF
    3.8/3.4/3.4 gsf            6.7/6.7/3.4 JPF            8.5/8.5/3.4 gsf
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    open ratings : 2.6 2.8 4.7 4.8 5.1 5.2 5.8-6.2 6.5 6.9 7.0 7.7-8.1 9.5-10.7

       submitter  entries  score  response  notes
       ---------  -------  -----  --------  -----
          coloin        1      9    55m59s  dealer
             Pat        1     45     5h51m  resigned
             JPF       17    865     3h43m  pearl*13,highest-rating,resigned
             gsf       23   1166    19m02s  diamond*2,pearl*18,last-entry,resigned
       ---------  -------  -----            -----
               4       42   2085            diamond*2,pearl*31,resigned*3
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Postby Pat » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:38 am

so we've finally tested this method of closing a game
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Postby g.r.emlin » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:51 am

::: game 0044 start LIGHTNING at 2008-07-31+01:00:00-0000 :::
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dealer status

candidate patterns (via private message to g.r.emlin)

   1 coloin            1 Pat               5 tarek            88 g.r.emlin

past patterns

   1 claudiarabia      1 ravel             3 tarek             6 coloin           16 JPF
   1 draco             1 wintder           4 m_b_metcalf       6 gsf              20 TTHsieh
   1 pseudocoup        2 g.r.emlin         5 Pat               7 Mauricio
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game 43 -- more

Postby Pat » Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:11 am

::: more :::
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.9.......8.....9.....1.265...46.32.............87.43...728.6.....3....1.........5   2.6/1.2/1.2
.9.......7.....9.....1.285...46.32.............87.46...518.6.....3....4.........5   2.8/1.2/1.2
.1.......9.....3.....2.457...46.72.............75.36...283.1.....3....5.........8   7.8/1.2/1.2
 
      these meager results
      show why i was quite ready to resign---
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