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by **gsf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:30 pm

::: comment :::

TTHsieh wrote:I suggest to expand the ED=ER/EP/ED to ED2=ER/EP/ED/EP2, where EP2 is the 2nd move.
ED2 system will be more chellenge.
Close this thread and open a new thread called Patterns Game 2.0

I think we already have challenges with the game as it is

can we determine why the number of pearl/diamonds varies between patterns
e.g., for Pat's last deal I though for sure given the number of boxes with 6 clues that
the number of pearls would be low

we also don't have a handle on what an exhaustive search would entail

and I'm still trying to figure out a good strategy
playing the highest score first is most times not ideal

so right now I'm inclined to leave it alone

by **gsf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:48 pm

Code: Select all: . . . 4 1 6 . . . . . 8 . . . 9 . . . 3 . . . . . 2 . 9 . . . . 8 . . 5 7 . . . . . . . 6 1 . . 2 . . . . 3 . 4 . . . . . 1 . . . 6 . . . 8 . . . . . 3 7 9 . . . ED=7.8/2.6/2.6

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:31 pm

Code: Select all: . . . | 1 2 3 | . . . . . 4 | . . . | 5 . . . 6 . | . . . | . 7 . - - - + - - - + - - - 8 . . | . . 7 | . . 3 5 . . | . . . | . . 6 2 . . | 8 . . | . . 7 - - - + - - - + - - - . 8 . | . . . | . 1 . . . 9 | . . . | 2 . . . . . | 4 6 9 | . . . ED=6.6/4.0/2.6

TTHsieh

by **gsf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:31 pm

Code: Select all: . . . 4 3 6 . . . . . 9 . . . 3 . . . 8 . . . . . 1 . 7 . . . . 4 . . 6 1 . . . . . . . 8 4 . . 2 . . . . 5 . 6 . . . . . 7 . . . 5 . . . 2 . . . . . 9 8 1 . . . ED=6.7/4.2/2.6

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:43 pm

Code: Select all: . . . | 1 2 3 | . . . . . 4 | . . . | 5 . . . 6 . | . . . | . 7 . - - - + - - - + - - - 7 . . | . . 4 | . . 8 9 . . | . . . | . . 5 2 . . | 5 . . | . . 1 - - - + - - - + - - - . 3 . | . . . | . 4 . . . 1 | . . . | 2 . . . . . | 8 3 6 | . . . ED=7.6/2.6/2.6

TTHsieh

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:01 pm

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The different time has the different idea,
Patterns Game in evolution: ER => ER/EP_index => ER/EP/ED
Why not ER/EP/ED/EP2 ?

TTHsieh

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:56 pm

Code: Select all: . . . 4 3 6 . . . . . 9 . . . 6 . . . 8 . . . . . 3 . 4 . . . . 7 . . 6 2 . . . . . . . 9 1 . . 5 . . . . 8 . 1 . . . . . 5 . . . 7 . . . 4 . . . . . 9 2 1 . . . 5.6/4.0/2.6

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **g.r.emlin** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:00 pm

::: adjustment :::

Code: Select all: 2008-04-26+17:56:00-0000 m_b_metcalf bad-submission -50

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:08 pm

::: comment :::

g.r.emlin wrote:::: adjustment :::
Code: Select all
2008-04-26+17:56:00-0000 m_b_metcalf bad-submission -50

Dear g.r.emlin,
Can I resubmit the puzzle with the correct annotation and no further penalty?

And must I wait until someone else has played?

Thanks,

Mike Metcalf

P.S. And why can't we just drop this requirement?

by **TTHsieh** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:41 pm

Code: Select all: . . . | 1 2 3 | . . . . . 4 | . . . | 5 . . . 6 . | . . . | . 7 . - - - + - - - + - - - 2 . . | . . 7 | . . 6 5 . . | . . . | . . 3 1 . . | 8 . . | . . 7 - - - + - - - + - - - . 3 . | . . . | . 8 . . . 9 | . . . | 4 . . . . . | 5 6 9 | . . . ED=4.7/2.6/2.6

TTHsieh

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:49 pm

Code: Select all: . . . 4 3 6 . . . . . 9 . . . 6 . . . 8 . . . . . 3 . 4 . . . . 7 . . 6 2 . . . . . . . 9 1 . . 5 . . . . 8 . 1 . . . . . 5 . . . 7 . . . 4 . . . . . 9 2 1 . . . ED=5.6/4.0/2.6

Experimental play.

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **tarek** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:50 pm

Code: Select all: . . . | 4 8 6 | . . . . . 5 | . . . | 3 . . . 7 . | . . . | . 1 . -------+-------+------ 9 . . | . . 7 | . . 6 3 . . | . . . | . . 2 4 . . | 9 . . | . . 8 -------+-------+------ . 6 . | . . . | . 2 . . . 9 | . . . | 4 . . . . . | 8 3 2 | . . . ED=4.8/1.2/1.2

by **g.r.emlin** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:50 pm

::: game 0029 status :::

Code: Select all: game 0029 2008-04-26+01:21:00-0000 duration 18h29m dealer tarek pages 214-221 (open) 4 players ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1.2/1.2/1.2 m_b_metcalf 4.4/3.4/2.6 tarek 6.6/4.0/2.6 TTHsieh 8.1/1.2/1.2 tarek 1.5/1.5/1.5 tarek 4.5/4.5/2.6 tarek 6.7/4.2/2.6 gsf 8.2/8.2/2.6 tarek 1.7/1.5/1.5 TTHsieh 4.6/4.0/2.6 gsf 6.8/4.2/2.6 TTHsieh 8.3/8.3/2.6 m_b_metcalf 2.0/2.0/2.0 tarek 4.7/2.6/2.6 TTHsieh 6.9/4.0/2.6 gsf 8.4/8.4/2.6 gsf 2.3/2.3/2.3 m_b_metcalf 4.8/1.2/1.2 tarek 7.0/4.0/2.6 TTHsieh 8.5/8.5/2.6 tarek 2.5/2.5/2.5 tarek 5.0/1.2/1.2 gsf 7.1/7.1/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.6/8.6/2.6 TTHsieh 2.6/2.6/2.6 gsf 5.1/1.2/1.2 tarek 7.2/7.2/2.6 gsf 8.7/8.7/2.6 TTHsieh 2.8/2.6/2.6 TTHsieh 5.2/1.2/1.2 tarek 7.3/7.3/2.6 gsf 8.8/8.8/2.6 tarek 3.0/3.0/2.6 gsf 5.6/4.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf 7.4/7.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf 8.9/8.9/2.6 m_b_metcalf 3.2/2.6/2.6 tarek 5.7/2.6/2.6 gsf 7.5/7.5/2.6 TTHsieh 9.0/9.0/2.6 tarek 3.4/3.4/2.6 m_b_metcalf 5.8/2.6/2.6 TTHsieh 7.6/2.6/2.6 TTHsieh 9.1/2.6/2.6 gsf 3.6/2.6/2.6 gsf 5.9/2.6/2.6 tarek 7.7/2.3/2.3 tarek 9.2/2.6/2.6 tarek 3.8/1.2/1.2 gsf 6.0/2.6/2.6 tarek 7.8/2.6/2.6 gsf 4.0/4.0/2.6 tarek 6.2/2.6/2.6 gsf 7.9/7.4/2.6 TTHsieh 4.2/4.2/2.6 gsf 6.5/2.6/2.6 tarek 8.0/8.0/2.6 m_b_metcalf ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ open ratings : 5.4 6.1 9.3-10.7 submitter entries score response notes ----------- ------- ----- -------- ----- m_b_metcalf 9 303 5m39s pearl*7,bad-submission gsf 16 754 15m32s diamond,pearl*13,dup-rating TTHsieh 12 1008 18m09s pearl*11 tarek 20 1065 13m13s diamond,pearl*12,highest-rating,last-entry,edited,dealer ----------- ------- ----- ----- 4 57 3130 diamond*2,pearl*43

by **m_b_metcalf** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:47 pm

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A present for tarek:

Code: Select all: . . . 4 9 5 . . . . . 2 . . . 6 . . . 4 . . . . . 5 . 1 . . . . 8 . . 5 9 . . . . . . . 1 2 . . 9 . . . . 7 . 1 . . . . . 3 . . . 9 . . . 5 . . . . . 8 7 3 . . . X-sudoku, easy

Regards,

Mike Metcalf

by **TTHsieh** » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:57 am

Code: Select all: . . . | 1 2 3 | . . . . . 1 | . . . | 4 . . . 5 . | . . . | . 3 . - - - + - - - + - - - 6 . . | . . 7 | . . 3 1 . . | . . . | . . 8 2 . . | 4 . . | . . 9 - - - + - - - + - - - . 8 . | . . . | . 6 . . . 7 | . . . | 2 . . . . . | 9 7 5 | . . . ED=7.7/2.6/2.6

TTHsieh

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