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Not understanding a step

Postby saulres » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:41 pm

Hi. New here. I have a sudoku app on my cell phone, and sometimes it drives me nuts (mostly because I can only enter four marks on a square).

Anyway, after being frustrated for a while, I searched and found the Solver. I entered my current hair-puller to see what to do next.

The original grid looked like:
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---+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A  |            3                             8                   
B  |                      6         1         7                 
C  |  7                                                                     3         2         
D  |                                3                   8         1         2       
E  |  3                                                                               8         
F  |            1         5         6                   7               
G  |  9         5                                                                     7         
H  |                                          3         5         6               
I  |                                          4                             5                   


When I plug that in, on my own I've solved through the first attempt to solve method C:

The solution steps wrote:Starting Solve Method C

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---+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A  |  45        3         49        2459      8         249       4579      14679     14569     
B  |  245       2489      6         1         7         3         4589      489       459       
C  |  7         489       1         459       569       469       4589      3         2         
D  |  46        4679      479       3         59        8         1         2         56       
E  |  3         269       29        459       159       149       57        67        8         
F  |  8         1         5         6         2         7         349       49        349       
G  |  9         5         2348      28        16        126       2348      148       7         
H  |  124       247       2478      2789      3         5         6         1489      149       
I  |  126       267       2378      2789      4         129       2389      5         139       


Found a multicount set [67] and can eliminate stragglers:
Set cell [A8] to 67
Set cell [E8] to 67
Ending Solve Method C


I don't understand what's meant by "multicount set", nor why it rules out 6 from A9 and 7 from A7. Could someone kindly explain to me what's going on there?

Thanks:)
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Postby RW » Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:54 pm

What you have there is a hidden pair. In column 8, digits 6 and 7 may only be in row 1 or row 5. This means that r15c8 must be 6 and 7, and no other digit may go in any of those two cells => You may eliminate 149 from r1c8. The pair doesn't make any other direct eliminations and does not rule out 6 from r1c79. However, as r1c8 cannot be 1, there is only one possible cell left in row 1 that can have that digit, r1c9.

The output by "solver" seems a bit difficult to read (and it doesn't use common terminology, which will make it a lot harder for you to discuss the output with other sudoku enthusiasts), you may like to check out some of the softwares on this page for better programs.

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