## Need a trick for the pony

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### Need a trick for the pony

Can anyone see a method to solve this puzzle?

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dan
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All I can offer is a contradiction chain ...

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`4=[r5c9]=9=[r6c8]-9-[r2c8]-5-[r8c8]-4-[r8c6]=4=[r5c6]-4-[r5c9] => [r5c9]<>4`

Singles complete the puzzle.
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daj95376 said:
All I can offer is a contradiction chain ...

Thanks, I like your notation. I was hoping for a strange fish or an ALS.

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ArkieTech wrote:Thanks, I like your notation. I was hoping for a strange fish or an ALS.

I know. No fish ... and I don't do ALS. I bet others find many ALS examples.
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ArkieTech wrote:I was hoping for a strange fish or an ALS.

Here are two instances where the ALS xz-rule applies.
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` 279  4    257  | 79   38    579  |A368  16   D18-3 8    1    3    | 4    6     2    | 7    59   B59 679  679  57   | 38   1     579  |A348  2   DB348----------------+-----------------+---------------- 1249 29   124  | 6    49    3    | 5    8     7 5    8    6    | 79   2     47-9 | 1    3   DB49 3479 379  47   | 58   58    1    |A46   469   2----------------+-----------------+---------------- 1234 23   124  | 35   345   8    | 9    7     6 3467 367  8    | 1    3479 C49   | 2   C45  DB345 347  5    9    | 2    347   6    | 348  14   D1348 ALS 1: A = {r136c7} = {3468}        B = {r2358c9} = {34589}        x = 8, z = 3 implies r1c9<>3 ALS 2: C = {r8c68} = {459}        D = {r13589c9} = {134589}        x = 5, z = 9 implies r5c6<>9`

Neither exposes a "singles backdoor" like daj95376's chain, but the two bivalues created can then be used in a long (13-node) xy-chain for r1c7<>6.
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ronk said
Here are two instances where the ALZ xz-rule applies

Thanks, It is a rainy day here and I think I will investigate the implications of the three cells that are in both xls's (r358c9).

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ronk wrote:Neither exposes a "singles backdoor" like daj95376's chain, but the two bivalues created can then be used in a long (13-node) xy-chain for r1c7<>6.

Wow ronk, that's one impressive XY-Chain from [r1c8] to [r6c7] ... resulting in [r6c8]<>6 as well. Since it connects diagonal cells in an X-Wing, it also forcing the endpoints of the XY-Chain to be 6. Lots of action in your XY-Chain
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