Locked candidates1

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Locked candidates1

Postby Cec » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:51 pm

Having read the excellent website http://angusj.com/sudoku/hints.php which explains how candidates can be excluded by the existence of "Locked Candidates 1" (and 2) I am stumped with the following Simple Sudoku puzzle which hints a "Locked candidates 1" situation exists in cells r9c4 and r9c5 of a puzzle which I assume needs to only show the lower band (Boxes 7,8 and 9) to receive a reply.

Row 7 [7][129][12] [8][5][6] [29][3][4]
Row 8:( [15][128][12458] [134][123][9] [258][6][7]
Row 9 [3] [689][4568] [14][12][7] [2589][128][129]

After deducing candidate 6 can only occupy one of two cells in the bottom row (r9c2 or r9c3) I can't see how other candidates can be excluded. Any help would be appreciated but please go easy on me, I'm still grieving over a recent cricket match.
Regards Bonsai Cec:(
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Postby Karyobin » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:14 pm

Maybe someone else can help from what you've posted, but for me I'd really like to see the whole puzzle, just so I can get the gist of what's going on around these rows.

Sorry for your loss, but I'm over the proverbial orbital satellite. I think it was about 4:30pm yesterday (Ashes time) when my pulse rate finally dropped below 140 bpm, where it must have been since mid-July. I can only recommend you download the Embrace track 'Ashes' - not to rub it in at all, but it's a stunning track.
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Postby MCC » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:08 pm

cecbevwr

I'll attempt a reply.

You state a "Locked candidates 1" situation exists in cells (r9c4) and (r9c5).

So the answer must lie within those cells.

Looking at the 1's in row 7 they locked in box 7, so,
all other 1's can be eliminated from box 7.

This locks the 1's in row 8 to box 8,so,
all other 1's can be eliminated from box 8 including from cells (r9c4) and (r9c5).

This leaves the 4 and 2 to be placed in cells (r9c4) and (r9c5), with all other 4's and 2's eliminated from box 8 and row 9.


The 6 is already locked to (r9c2) or (r9c3) as a 6 has been placed in both (r7c6)and (r8c8).

Does this help answer your question?
If not, I'm sure someone else will correct me.
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Postby emm » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:19 pm

The 1s are locked into row 7 in box 7 and row 9 in box 9 => must be in row 8 box 8 => delete 1s from r9c4 r9c5.


So sorry about the cricket, Cec, (and the rugby!):D
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Locked Candidates 1

Postby Cec » Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:51 am

Thanks to Karyobin, MCC and em for your above explanations enabling me to complete the puzzle. Seems so obvious when it is explained. What would I do without you people. Must go - running late to get to cricket practice.
Regards Bonsai Cec
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Postby emm » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:45 pm

What a nice Australian!
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Postby Karyobin » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:02 pm

Yes, but I've never met a nice South African. Not entirely sure what I did to help, mind you.

Might I suggest you practice playing reverse swing?

Or any swing, for that matter.
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Postby emm » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:10 pm

I think you and Cec really connected on the cricket, rather than the puzzle.

PS : I'd like to extend an apology to the South African community for remarks made by the previous correspondent which in no way reflect the opinion of this forum - funny how a little success can go to the head when you're not used to it!
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Postby Karyobin » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:20 pm

Yes. I'd like to extend my apologies for it as well. 'tis a reference to the 'B' side of an 80's single - a rambling collection of preposterous confessions, repetitively tied together by an insulting qualification of my earlier assertion.

The 'A' side was the inexplicably popular 'Chicken Song' and both were performed by the cast of satirical puppet shoe Spitting Image.

I happen to know two South Africans. They're both lovely.
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Postby emm » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:52 pm

Ah, I get it – a double implication forcing chain - I missed the bilocation link. (It must be quite tiring being your brain!)
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Postby Karyobin » Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:45 am

Can be quite tiring living with it, certainly.:D
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