how can i proceed from here without guessing?
i solved it by guessing but i wanna learn how to decipher it mathematically.
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|8..|34.|.2.|
|2..|...|...|
|34.|7..|..1|
|---+---+---|
|.3.|..9|..5|
|...|16.|734|
|.64|...|.1.|
|---+---+---|
|...|..3|.6.|
|.1.|...|..2|
|...|25.|19.|
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*----------------------------------------------------*
| 8 57 #1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 #15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 #69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|-----------------------+---------------+------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 $2589 $2589 | 1 6 25-8 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|-----------------------+---------------+------------|
| 4579 25789 25789-6 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 45679 1 35789-6 | 689 789 4678 | 345 47 2 |
| 467 78 378 | 2 5 4678 | 1 9 378 |
*----------------------------------------------------*
*----------------------------------------------------*
| 8 57 1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|---------------------+----------------+-------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 2589 2589 | 1 6 25 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|---------------------+----------------+-------------|
| 4579 25789 25789 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 45679 1 35789 | 689 789 4678 | 345 47 2 |
| 46-7 #78 #378 | 2 5 46-78 | 1 9 #378 |
*----------------------------------------------------*
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| 8 57 1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|---------------------+-----------------+-------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 2589 2589 | 1 6 25 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|---------------------+-----------------+-------------|
| 4579 25789 25789 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 4569-7 1 3589-7 | 689 #789 #4678 | 345 4-7 2 |
| 46 78 378 | 2 5 46 | 1 9 378 |
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Leren wrote:Your diagram is a bit confusing, but this is what I think your puzzle is.
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|8..|34.|.2.|
|2..|...|...|
|34.|7..|..1|
|---+---+---|
|.3.|..9|..5|
|...|16.|734|
|.64|...|.1.|
|---+---+---|
|...|..3|.6.|
|.1.|...|..2|
|...|25.|19.|
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You can get to here by marking off the clues and looking for naked and hidden singles.
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| 8 57 #1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 #15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 #69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|-----------------------+---------------+------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 $2589 $2589 | 1 6 25-8 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|-----------------------+---------------+------------|
| 4579 25789 25789-6 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 45679 1 35789-6 | 689 789 4678 | 345 47 2 |
| 467 78 378 | 2 5 4678 | 1 9 378 |
*----------------------------------------------------*
At this point, You can see that there are 3 sixes in Box 1, all in Column 3 (cells marked #). One of them must be 6, so you can remove 2 6's from Column 3 in Box 7.
Similarly you can see that there are 2 eights in Box 4, both in Row 5 (cells marked $), so you can remove an 8 from Row 5 in Box 5.
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| 8 57 1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|---------------------+----------------+-------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 2589 2589 | 1 6 25 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|---------------------+----------------+-------------|
| 4579 25789 25789 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 45679 1 35789 | 689 789 4678 | 345 47 2 |
| 46-7 #78 #378 | 2 5 46-78 | 1 9 #378 |
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You also have a Naked Triple (478) in Row 9, cells marked #, so you can remove some 7's and 8's from other cells in Row 9.
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| 8 57 1567 | 3 4 156 | 9 2 67 |
| 2 579 15679 | 5689 89 1568 | 34 47 367 |
| 3 4 69 | 7 29 26 | 8 5 1 |
|---------------------+-----------------+-------------|
| 1 3 27 | 4 27 9 | 6 8 5 |
| 59 2589 2589 | 1 6 25 | 7 3 4 |
| 57 6 4 | 58 3 578 | 2 1 9 |
|---------------------+-----------------+-------------|
| 4579 25789 25789 | 89 1 3 | 45 6 78 |
| 4569-7 1 3589-7 | 689 #789 #4678 | 345 4-7 2 |
| 46 78 378 | 2 5 46 | 1 9 378 |
*-----------------------------------------------------*
Now there are two 7's in Box 8 in Row 8 (cells marked #), so you can remove some 7's in Boxes 7 and 9 in Row 8.
If you are observant, the puzzle should solve with naked and hidden singles from there.
Leren
sudoku987 wrote:so its standard procedure to mark all clues?
+---------+----------+----------+
| 8 . * | 3 4 . | 9 2 . |
| 2 . * | . . . | . . . |
| 3 *4 * | 7 . . | 8 5 1 |
+---------+----------+----------+
| 1 3 . | 4 . 9 | 6 8 5 |
| . . . | 1 6 . | 7 3 *4 |
| . *6 *4 | . 3 . | 2 1 9 |
+---------+----------+----------+
| . . . | . 1 3 | . *6 . |
| . 1 . | . . . | . . 2 |
| # - - | 2 5 # | 1 9 - |
+---------+----------+----------+
+---------+----------+----------+
| 8 . . | 3 4 . | 9 2 . |
| 2 . . | . . . | . . . |
| 3 4 . | 7 . . | 8 5 1 |
+---------+----------+----------+
| 1 3 . | 4 . 9 | 6 8 5 |
| . . . | 1 6 . | 7 3 4 |
| . 6 4 | . 3 . | 2 1 9 |
+---------+----------+----------+
| . . . | . 1 3 | . 6 . |
| . 1 . | . * * | . . 2 |
| 46 . . | 2 5 46| 1 9 . |
+---------+----------+----------+
+-------+-------+-------+
| 8 . . | 3 4 . | 9 2 6 |
| 2 . . | . . . | 4 7 3 |
| 3 4 . | 7 . . | 8 5 1 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 1 3 . | 4 . 9 | 6 8 5 |
| . . . | 1 6 . |*7 3 4 |
| # 6 4 | . 3 . | 2 1 9 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 4 . . | . 1 3 | 5 6 . |
| . 1 . | . * * | 3 4 2 |
| 6 . 3 | 2 5 4 | 1 9 . |
+-------+-------+-------+