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HNY 2017

Postby eleven » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:24 pm

Hope you can see the 17

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 5 . . . . . . . 7
 . . 4 . . . . . .
 . . 7 . 3 1 2 5 8
 . 5 2 . . . 6 . .
 . 8 3 . . . 5 4 .
 . 1 6 . . 9 7 . .
 . . 5 . . 4 . . .
 . . 9 . 2 7 . . .
 3 . . . 1 . . . .
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Re: HNY 2017

Postby Leren » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:48 pm

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*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*
| 5      23     1       | 269A   69A    8       | 4      39     7       |
| 8      23     4       | 2579  b579bB  25      | 13     139    6       |
| 6      9      7       | 4      3      1       | 2      5      8       |
|-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
| 79     5      2       | 178    4      3       | 6      18     19      |
| 79     8      3       | 1267   67a    26a     | 5      4      129     |
| 4      1      6       | 58-2  a58     9       | 7     a38    a23      |
|-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------|
| 2      6      5       | 389    89     4       | 138    7      13      |
| 1      4      9       | 38     2      7       | 38     6      5       |
| 3      7      8       | 56     1      56      | 9      2      4       |
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------*

3 Petal Death Blossom: Stem Cell r2c5 {579} :

(2=5) r6c589 - (5) r2c5;

(2=7) r5c56  - (7) r2c5;

(2=9) r1c45  - (9) r2c5; => - 2 r6c4; stte

Leren

PS : Puzzle in line format : 5.......7..4........7.31258.52...6...83...54..16..97....5..4.....9.27...3...1....

Leren

PPS : Not quite sure what the 17 is supposed to mean, but there are 17 single candidate eliminations that lead to an stte finish :

2 r1c2, 3 r1c8, 3 r2c2, 2 r2c6, 1 r2c7, 9 r2c8, 8 r4c4, 1 r4c8, 1 r5c4, 6 r5c6, 2 r5c9, 2 r6c4, 8 r6c8, 3 r6c9, 1 r7c9, 6 r9c4 & 5 r9c6

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Re: HNY 2017

Postby Cenoman » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:27 pm

Leren wrote:
PPS : Not quite sure what the 17 is supposed to mean, but there are 17 single candidate eliminations that lead to an stte finish :

2 r1c2, 3 r1c8, 3 r2c2, 2 r2c6, 1 r2c7, 9 r2c8, 8 r4c4, 1 r4c8, 1 r5c4, 6 r5c6, 2 r5c9, 2 r6c4, 8 r6c8, 3 r6c9, 1 r7c9, 6 r9c4 & 5 r9c6

If Leren's hypothesis is the right one, none of these candidates is eliminated with an AIC, 16 out of the 17 are eliminated by krakens.

The very challenge is to find a one stepper to eliminate the 17th, namely 1 r5c4. Good luck !

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Re: HNY 2017

Postby pjb » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:51 am

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 5      g23      1      |f269    69     8      | 4      39     7     
 8      h23      4      |j2579   579   i25     | 13    a139    6     
 6       9       7      | 4      3      1      | 2      5      8     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
c79      5       2      |c178    4      3      | 6     b8-1   c19     
 79      8       3      |k1267   67     26     | 5      4     l129   
 4       1       6      |e258   d58     9      | 7      38     23     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
 2       6       5      | 389    89     4      | 138    7      13     
 1       4       9      | 38     2      7      | 38     6      5     
 3       7       8      | 56     1      56     | 9      2      4     

(1)r2c8 = r4c8 - (1=8)r149c4* - (8=5)r6c5 - (58=2)r6c4* - r1c4 = r1c2 - r2c2 = (2-5)r2c6 = (5-7)r2c4 = (7-1)r5c4 = r5c9 => -1 r4c8; stte
                                      \
                                     r2c5

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Re: HNY 2017

Postby blue » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:01 am

eleven wrote:Hope you can see the 17

Seen :!:

    Hi eleven. Happy New Year.
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Re: HNY 2017

Postby eleven » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:20 am

Thanks blue, thought it was too bad.
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Re: HNY 2017

Postby Leren » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:26 am

Here is a morph of the puzzle in line format with a third relation to 17. Can you deduce what the relation is ?

...3..4.1...6....9....8.5...7.4.6...96.8.2....1.7.5..3..1.6....6421..8.5...9.....

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Re: HNY 2017

Postby eleven » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:41 pm

Code: Select all
 *---------------------------------------------*
 | 5   23  1 | 26-9  6-9  8   | 4   a39   7    |
 | 8   23  4 | 2579 d579  25  | 13   13-9 6    |
 | 6   9   7 | 4     3    1   | 2    5    8    |
 |-----------+----------------+----------------|
 | 79  5   2 | 178   4    3   | 6    18   19   |
 | 79  8   3 | 1267 c67  c26  | 5    4    129  |
 | 4   1   6 |c258  c58   9   | 7   b38   23   |
 |-----------+----------------+----------------|
 | 2   6   5 | 389   89   4   | 138  7    13   |
 | 1   4   9 | 38    2    7   | 38   6    5    |
 | 3   7   8 | 56    1    56  | 9    2    4    |
 *---------------------------------------------*

(9=3)r1c8-(3=8)r6c8-(8=57)b5p5678-(5|7=9)r2c5 => r1c45,r2c8<>9, stte

The 57 links are a bit tricky (from both sides).
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Re: HNY 2017

Postby Leren » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:51 pm

I've Recast the puzzle so it looks more familiar. What is that extra relation to 17 ?

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6 . . . . . . . 1
. . 9 . . . . . .
. . 1 . 8 5 4 6 2
. 6 4 . . . 7 . .
. 2 8 . . . 6 9 .
. 5 7 . . 3 1 . .
. . 6 . . 9 . . .
. . 3 . 4 1 . . .
8 . . . 5 . . . .

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