Having problems getting SE batch file to work.
Have installed java
Have downloaded the updated .jar file
I have got it to work in the past ....
I tried installing into /using different directories - jre and bin but the command line fails.....
Is windows 8 the problem still ?
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Help With Sudoku Explainer
Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by coloin » Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:56 pm
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by m_b_metcalf » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:56 pm
champagne helped me with a similar problem on Windows 8 (I don't remember it happening on 8.1). You need to set the path correctly:
Control Panel
System and Security
System
Advanced System Settings
Environment Variables
Path
then make sure Java is in that path, or add it.
HTH
Mike Metcalf
Control Panel
System and Security
System
Advanced System Settings
Environment Variables
Path
then make sure Java is in that path, or add it.
HTH
Mike Metcalf
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by champagne » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:06 am
coloin wrote:Having problems getting SE batch file to work.
Have installed java
Have downloaded the updated .jar file
I have got it to work in the past ....
I tried installing into /using different directories - jre and bin but the command line fails.....
Is windows 8 the problem still ?
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I think Mike gave the right clue.
It's true that in the past Java updated the path as many applications do. May-be the problem came with the 64 bits version.
after the batch version work, You'll see also a strange warning, but the task is done.
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by coloin » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:26 pm
Yes thanks for that.
I needed to put the java in the path !
I got the warning ! but I ignored it !
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I needed to put the java in the path !
I got the warning ! but I ignored it !
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Sudoku Explainer 1.2.1.3 source code
by 1to9only » Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:50 pm
Does anyone still have the java source code for the patterns game version of SudokuExplainer, as downloaded from this post: http://forum.enjoysudoku.com/help-with-sudoku-explainer-t6677-30.html#p233994 (version 1.2.1.3)? Or point me to where it can be downloaded. Thanks.
I can get hold of 1.2.1 source code, but I think this is without the fixes for the patterns game. I've repackaged the existing 1.2.1.3 jar file without the gui, but there is no speed improvements. I've built lksudoku's 1.2.9 version using the latest jdk (8u181), and some ratings are different!!
Thanks if you can help.
I can get hold of 1.2.1 source code, but I think this is without the fixes for the patterns game. I've repackaged the existing 1.2.1.3 jar file without the gui, but there is no speed improvements. I've built lksudoku's 1.2.9 version using the latest jdk (8u181), and some ratings are different!!
Thanks if you can help.
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by champagne » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:21 pm
I likely have this stored, but to let you know, Patrice has a c++ version of the code "giving the same ratings" till the nested level.
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Re: Sudoku Explainer 1.2.1.3 source code
by dobrichev » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:45 pm
1to9only wrote:Does anyone still have the java source code for the patterns game version of SudokuExplainer...
I have the same problem. I collected some versions, presumably of "core" and "the batch processing patch" but had no time to go further and join, compile, and test them.
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by 1to9only » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:36 pm
I also downloaded a serate.tgz file containing the serate.java and Solver.java files - they have the correct timestamps (2 Jan 2009) and the serate code has the correct version (1.2.1.3) - so I'm looking for the 1.2.1.2 SE source code, presumably containing the patterns game fixes...
Machine conversion from java to C++ and C# has improved in recent years - I'll use software to convert the 1.2.1 SE code and serate.tgz to C++, and try compiling it in Visual Studio, and see what comes out...
Machine conversion from java to C++ and C# has improved in recent years - I'll use software to convert the 1.2.1 SE code and serate.tgz to C++, and try compiling it in Visual Studio, and see what comes out...
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by dobrichev » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:32 pm
Java to C++ conversion was successfully done and reported in this forum years ago. Try searching the forum, I have no reference to this discussion. From memory, there was 2X speed improvement reported w/o any other changes made. Personally I never did such migration and have no idea whether, where and how manual invention must be done in order to compile a functional equivalent.
The initial source code remains open issue and after the disappearance of the original source site I have no answer what is the "right" source code version. Even not sure whether it was the latest published code in the original site. Fortunately there are several clones in the web and possibly one of them is the right one.
The initial source code remains open issue and after the disappearance of the original source site I have no answer what is the "right" source code version. Even not sure whether it was the latest published code in the original site. Fortunately there are several clones in the web and possibly one of them is the right one.
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by 1to9only » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:18 pm
This is my custom version to display SudokuExplainer hints when it rates a sudoku puzzle.
Usage is similar to calling serate, use this command to call up hints:
Output is written to the screen, it can be redirected to a file.
Note: The SEHINTS.jar further below does not contain the gui and serate code.
Here are some examples (the puzzles are from patterns game 322):
.1......23....14......3..5....1...6...5.7.3...2...3.....2.4.....8.6....16......7. ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
.1......23....45......6..7....1...4...5.7.3...2...8.....6.5.....9.8....12......8. ED=6.7/6.7/6.7
.1......23....45......6..7....7...1...5.3.8...4...9.....7.5.....9.2....48......3. ED=9.9/9.9/9.2
[Edit 3 Nov] I've retired SEHINTS.jar. It had been downloaded 2 times. If you are looking to display SE hints,scroll down about 10 posts, and download SukakuExplainer.jar [Edit 5 Aug] see here.
Usage is similar to calling serate, use this command to call up hints:
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java.exe -Xrs -Xmx500m -cp SEHINTS.jar diuf.sudoku.test.hints --input=file.txt
Output is written to the screen, it can be redirected to a file.
Note: The SEHINTS.jar further below does not contain the gui and serate code.
Here are some examples (the puzzles are from patterns game 322):
.1......23....14......3..5....1...6...5.7.3...2...3.....2.4.....8.6....16......7. ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
Hidden Text: Show
.1......23....45......6..7....1...4...5.7.3...2...8.....6.5.....9.8....12......8. ED=6.7/6.7/6.7
Hidden Text: Show
.1......23....45......6..7....7...1...5.3.8...4...9.....7.5.....9.2....48......3. ED=9.9/9.9/9.2
Hidden Text: Show
[Edit 3 Nov] I've retired SEHINTS.jar. It had been downloaded 2 times. If you are looking to display SE hints,
Last edited by 1to9only on Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:07 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by 1to9only » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:41 am
I made a further change to getHintsHint() (in Solver.java), changing:
to this:
The code block also needs to be moved to after the hint.apply(); line.
This modification causes the puzzle to be displayed on its way to being solved, e.g:
.1......23....14......3..5....1...6...5.7.3...2...3.....2.4.....8.6....16......7. ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
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String s = "";
int w = (int)((ruleDiff + 0.05) * 10);
to this:
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String s = "";
for (int i=0; i<81; i++) {
int n = grid.getCellValue(i%9,i/9);
s += (n==0)?".":n;
}
s += " ";
int w = (int)((ruleDiff + 0.05) * 10);
The code block also needs to be moved to after the hint.apply(); line.
This modification causes the puzzle to be displayed on its way to being solved, e.g:
.1......23....14......3..5....1...6...5.7.3...2...3.....2.4.....8.6....16......7. ED=1.2/1.2/1.2
Hidden Text: Show
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by tarek » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:28 am
Hi 1to9only,
I'm not sure if you'll find the time but can you disable the check for minimum number of clues in explainer.
IMO That would allow us to load Pencil-mark only sudokus onto explainer & use it as a solver/helper/rater for Pencil-mark only sudoku (Sukaku).
Thanks,
tarek
I'm not sure if you'll find the time but can you disable the check for minimum number of clues in explainer.
IMO That would allow us to load Pencil-mark only sudokus onto explainer & use it as a solver/helper/rater for Pencil-mark only sudoku (Sukaku).
Thanks,
tarek
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by 1to9only » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:37 pm
tarek wrote:I'm not sure if you'll find the time but can you disable the check for minimum number of clues in explainer.
I think the minimum clues is 17 - removing the check can be done - by not calling the checking code!
tarek wrote:IMO That would allow us to load Pencil-mark only sudokus onto explainer & use it as a solver/helper/rater for Pencil-mark only sudoku (Sukaku).
Can you post an example pm grid? [To save me time.
I can probably search the forum for examples...]I think new code may be required to read pencil-marks instead of cell numbers.
Also SE (usually) is given a puzzle, and for each empty cell SE calls 'rebuildPotentialValues' (pencil-marks), I don't know if this will conflict with input pencil-marks - some code changes may be required!!
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Re: Help With Sudoku Explainer
by tarek » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:08 pm
Hi 1yo9only,
I was probably talking about the GUI rather than reading from file. IIRC you can paste a penci-Mark grid into the GUI but it won’t go any further.
Anything that requires more than disabling a command line will be a hassle and as you said will require re-writing some code. Although that is nice, it wasn’t my intention.
I’ll post 2 examples shortly. A pencilmark grid (which is the popular format). The other is 729 line puzzle which is how I store these puzzles for reference.
Thanks,
tarek
I was probably talking about the GUI rather than reading from file. IIRC you can paste a penci-Mark grid into the GUI but it won’t go any further.
Anything that requires more than disabling a command line will be a hassle and as you said will require re-writing some code. Although that is nice, it wasn’t my intention.
I’ll post 2 examples shortly. A pencilmark grid (which is the popular format). The other is 729 line puzzle which is how I store these puzzles for reference.
Thanks,
tarek
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Re: Explainer v Pencilmark only sudoku
by tarek » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:14 pm
Sukaku puzzle from Ruud 1st in thread "Pencilmark only Sudoku"
Here is one of mine published in the same thread.
the 729 character line representation is first followed by the pencil mark grid underneath it
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.------------------------------.------------------------------.------------------------------.
| 1257 23479 12479 | 2468 1245679 14568 | 579 357 13458 |
| 135679 12456789 4567 | 35678 2356 256789 | 24569 234 35679 |
| 2348 1256 1235678 | 12478 345789 1479 | 45679 134 126789 |
:------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------:
| 12356789 45679 356 | 138 2456 123489 | 124567 138 12467 |
| 123468 134679 34679 | 2468 15678 12346789 | 12346789 78 123456 |
| 2578 1268 346789 | 5689 12345678 458 | 1234567 679 1245789 |
:------------------------------+------------------------------+------------------------------:
| 234567 24678 12458 | 19 13456789 1234689 | 2358 234589 12679 |
| 378 1689 145689 | 123456789 1234678 2578 | 126 12345689 3589 |
| 13568 13479 13489 | 13789 34568 35689 | 123478 67 235678 |
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Here is one of mine published in the same thread.
the 729 character line representation is first followed by the pencil mark grid underneath it
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123456789.23456789.23456789.23456789.23456789.23456789.234567891234567891234567891234567891.34567891.34567891.34567891234567891.34567891.345678912345678912345678912...678912...678912345678912...678912.4.678912.45678912.4.678912...678912...678912.45678912.45678912345678912.45678912.45678912.45678912.45678912.4567891234567891.3.567891.3.567891.3.567891.3.567891.3.567891.3.567891.34567891.3.56789123456789123456789.23456.89.2345..89.23456789.2345..89.23456.89.2345..89.2345.789.2345..89123.567.9123.567.91234567.9123.567.91234567.91234567.91234567891234567.9123.567.912.4.678912.4567891234.678912.4.678912345678912.45678912.45678912.4.67891234.6789123456.891.3456.891.3456.891.3456.89123456.891.3456.891.3456.89123456789123456.89
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| 123456789 23456789 23456789 | 23456789 23456789 23456789 | 23456789 123456789 123456789 |
| 123456789 13456789 13456789 | 13456789 123456789 13456789 | 13456789 123456789 123456789 |
| 126789 126789 123456789 | 126789 1246789 12456789 | 1246789 126789 126789 |
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| 12456789 12456789 123456789 | 12456789 12456789 12456789 | 12456789 12456789 123456789 |
| 1356789 1356789 1356789 | 1356789 1356789 1356789 | 13456789 1356789 123456789 |
| 123456789 2345689 234589 | 23456789 234589 2345689 | 234589 2345789 234589 |
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| 1235679 1235679 12345679 | 1235679 12345679 12345679 | 123456789 12345679 1235679 |
| 1246789 12456789 12346789 | 1246789 123456789 12456789 | 12456789 1246789 12346789 |
| 12345689 1345689 1345689 | 1345689 12345689 1345689 | 1345689 123456789 12345689 |
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