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Postby cakiwi » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:40 pm

I started with this puzzle

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 . . 8 | . 2 . | 3 . .
 . 9 . | 6 1 . | . 4 .
 . 2 . | . . 9 | . . 1
-------+-------+------
 7 . . | . . . | . 3 8
 . . . | 1 . 5 | . . .
 2 5 . | . . . | . . 6
-------+-------+------
 9 . . | 5 . . | . 6 .
 . 8 . | . 4 2 | . 5 .
 . . 5 | . 3 . | 9 . .


So far I have

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 . . 8 | 4 2 7 | 3 9 5
 5 9 . | 6 1 . | . 4 .
 . 2 . | . 5 9 | 6 . 1
-------+-------+------
 7 . . | 2 . 4 | 5 3 8
 8 . . | 1 . 5 | . . 9
 2 5 . | . . . | . . 6
-------+-------+------
 9 . 2 | 5 . 1 | . 6 .
 . 8 . | 9 4 2 | . 5 .
 . . 5 | . 3 6 | 9 . .


and now I'm stuck. Can anyone help.
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Postby Nick67 » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:09 pm

I pasted your (updated) puzzle into Simple Sudoku,
and it reports these candidates and cell values:


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 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 16    16    8     | 4     2     7     | 3     9     5     |
 | 5     9     37    | 6     1     38    | 278   4     27    |
 | 34    2     347   | 38    5     9     | 6     78    1     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 7     16    169   | 2     69    4     | 5     3     8     |
 | 8     346   346   | 1     67    5     | 247   27    9     |
 | 2     5     1349  | 378   789   38    | 147   17    6     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 9     347   2     | 5     78    1     | 478   6     347   |
 | 136   8     1367  | 9     4     2     | 17    5     37    |
 | 14    147   5     | 78    3     6     | 9     1278  247   |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 


It looks like you are in a tough spot. According to SS,
you'll need to take several steps before you "solve" your
next cell. The first step: there is a naked pair in column 2.
The next several steps require recognizing "locked candidates."
(For example, the 7's in block 1 are locked in
column 3).

Then you'll need to spot another naked pair (in row 7).
Finally, after all that, you'll be able to find a hidden
single in column 2.

I hope this helps.

[Edit: the good news is that, as Karyobin suggests, the
puzzle is easy after you solve that next cell.]
Last edited by Nick67 on Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Karyobin » Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:12 pm

You've got 4's locked in column 9 and 6's locked in row 8. Then you've got a Naked Pair in row 7 which gives you only one possibility in column 2. Looks like it unlocks from that point but I won't know, I have to go and call a quiz now.

[Edit: Yeah, well I was less subtle. Sorry.]
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Postby cakiwi » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:31 am

Thanks for the push guys. This was from last Sunday's LA Times and it has been bugging me all week. Now I know about "locked rows".
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