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Postby JPF » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:28 pm

An advice from the experts would be welcome:)
Thanks.

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Postby re'born » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:37 pm

Try looking for remote naked pairs, first on <89>, then on <24>. That ought to be enough to solve the puzzle.
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Re: Help B

Postby wapati » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:24 am

Edited to add: I don't consider myself an expert, yet the post is germane.

JPF wrote:An advice from the experts would be welcome:)
Thanks.

JPF


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Postby JPF » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:22 am

Thanks re'born and wapati, but your answers are too cryptic for me:(

I read SE, SS, Sudocue answers and I think I understood them.
Is there an elegant (and full) solution from your side ?

Thanks.

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Postby re'born » Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:11 pm

JPF wrote:Thanks re'born and wapati, but your answers are too cryptic for me:(

I read SE, SS, Sudocue answers and I think I understood them.
Is there an elegant (and full) solution from your side ?

Thanks.

JPF


Could you clarify what you are asking for? Are you interested in all steps, including singles? Do you only want an explanation of the "difficult" steps? Are you only interested in an (elegant) one-step solution?
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Postby wapati » Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:52 pm

JPF wrote:Thanks re'born and wapati, but your answers are too cryptic for me:(

I read SE, SS, Sudocue answers and I think I understood them.
Is there an elegant (and full) solution from your side ?

Thanks.

JPF


Not really from me. I'll show you the simplest way that I now see based on re'born's reply.

Simple stuff gets you to here:

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.-----------------.---------------.---------------.
| 1     6     489 | 7    589  58  | 3    489  2   |
|*89    3     7   | 2    6    4   |*89   5    1   |
| 5     24-89 2489| 3    89   1   | 6    7    489 |
:-----------------+---------------+---------------:
| 3     7     6   | 9    248  28  | 1    248  5   |
| 2489  1     2489| 5    7    3   | 24   6    489 |
| 2489  2489  5   | 1    248  6   | 7    2489 3   |
:-----------------+---------------+---------------:
| 24-89 2489  1   | 6    3    7   | 5    289  489 |
| 6     5     24  | 8    1    9   | 24   3    7   |
| 7    *89    3   | 4    25   25  |*89   1    6   |
'-----------------'---------------'---------------'


Here I'd spot a double digit (89) skyscraper in rows 2 and 9 eliminating both 8 and 9 from r3c2 and r7c1.

This is also a remote pair removing the identical candidates.

If you do a bit of cleanup you get to here:

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.-----------------.---------------.---------------.
| 1     6     489 | 7    589  58  | 3    489  2   |
| 89    3     7   | 2    6    4   | 89   5    1   |
| 5     24    2489| 3    89   1   | 6    7    489 |
:-----------------+---------------+---------------:
| 3     7     6   | 9    248  28  | 1    248  5   |
| 89-24 1     2489| 5    7    3   |*24   6    489 |
| 2489  24    5   | 1    248  6   | 7    2489 3   |
:-----------------+---------------+---------------:
|*24    89    1   | 6    3    7   | 5    289  489 |
| 6     5    *24  | 8    1    9   |*24   3    7   |
| 7     89    3   | 4    25   25  | 89   1    6   |
'-----------------'---------------'---------------'


I wouldn't normally spot this remote pair but it is an easy one and leaves the puzzle very easy to complete.

Good eye re'born!
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Postby JPF » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:17 pm

Thanks a lot wapati : those are the details I was looking for.
re'born : sorry, I hadn't understood your (elegant) solution.

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