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Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby Bluewaterpig » Mon May 14, 2018 7:02 pm

I’ve been solving Sudoku puzzles for a few years now, and this is my first attempt at a puzzle labeled as “demanding”. I know most of the basic strategies, but I’m pretty positive that the solution for this one will come from an advanced strategy that I don’t know about. This will probably be pretty easy for anyone who’s even slightly advanced.

Can someone find even just one more answer and then tell me the strategy they used? I’ll be delighted to learn the method that unlocks the next number...
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Re: Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby Leren » Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 am

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*-----------*
|...|...|.3.|
|47.|...|...|
|9..|.1.|...|
|---+---+---|
|..8|1..|.2.|
|2..|5..|..7|
|..3|.6.|.1.|
|---+---+---|
|..5|.7.|..2|
|...|..5|..9|
|..7|2.8|..1|
*-----------*

This is actually a very easy puzzle. After marking off the clues and looking for naked and hidden singles, you end up here, which is close to what you have pencilled in on your diagram.

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*-------------------------------------------------------*
|*568 *568 126 | 4789 2489-5 479 | 124678-5 3     468-5 |
| 4    7   12  | 3   #258    6   | 1258     9     58    |
| 9    3   26  | 478  1      47  | 245678   45678 4568  |
|--------------+-----------------+----------------------|
| 567  456 8   | 1    49     479 | 4569     2     3     |
| 2    1   9   | 5    48     3   | 468      468   7     |
| 57   45  3   | 4789 6      2   | 4589     1     458   |
|--------------+-----------------+----------------------|
| 368  689 5   | 49   7      1   | 3468     468   2     |
| 1    2   4   | 6    3      5   | 78       78    9     |
| 36   69  7   | 2    49     8   | 3456     456   1     |
*-------------------------------------------------------*

There is a Box/Row intersection (pointing pair) of 5's in Box 1 in the cells marked *. As these are the only two 5's in Box 1, one of them must be True, so you can eliminate the other three 5's in Row 1, as I've indicated.

The puzzle then just solves with a cascade of singles, the first of which is that r2c5 must be 5 as it is the only 5 in Column 5 and Box 2.

If you really don't know about intersection removals, let me know and I'll give you some links to some excellent teaching sites.

Leren
Last edited by Leren on Fri May 25, 2018 7:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby eleven » Tue May 15, 2018 9:36 pm

Hi Bluewaterpig,

what a trash site you posted in your link! i have to wait a minute (what are they doing in that time?) to get some advertisements and your puzzle.
Please look at Leren's post, how to post a puzzle, or attach a photo here.

For that puzzle you don't have to fill in any candidates. Just look for pairs (they are well hidden).
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Re: Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby Leren » Tue May 15, 2018 11:46 pm

I'd have agree with elevens comments. It was quite difficult to bring up your puzzle and I did a security check afterwards, in case some malware had been installed on my PC. Leren
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Re: Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby Bluewaterpig » Sat May 19, 2018 3:54 pm

First...thanks for the replies.

I’ve looked up the concept of “pointing pairs”. This was a strategy I was already familiar with.

I still don’t understand the significance of the pointing pair of 5s in my box 1...even though they’re present, 5s can still occur across the bottom row of box 3, so how does that help me solve anything?
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Postby Pat » Fri May 25, 2018 7:01 am

Bluewaterpig wrote:
I still don’t understand the significance of the pointing pair of 5s in my box 1

how does that help me solve anything?

as Leren said,
excluding 5 at r1c5
solves the 5 for b2
(or equally, for c5)

    Leren wrote:

      you can eliminate the other 5s in Row 1

      ---r2c5 must be 5
      as it is the only 5 in Column 5 and Box 2.
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Re: Help An Intermediate Become An Expert!!

Postby Leren » Fri May 25, 2018 7:38 am

I've added a # to r2c5 in my PM. If you look at the diagram closely, when the 5 is removed from r1c5, 5 is the only one left in Column 5 or Box 2. That's a hidden single, so it must be 5.

When you mark that off, at least one other single will appear. One I can see is that r2c9 is not 5, so it's 8. When you mark that off, at least one other single will appear ...... and so on until the puzzle is fully solved.

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