February 18, 2019

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February 18, 2019

Postby ArkieTech » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:51 am

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 *-----------*
 |..5|..2|..6|
 |..8|7..|..9|
 |6..|.49|...|
 |---+---+---|
 |.2.|...|...|
 |...|1..|.57|
 |...|.3.|...|
 |---+---+---|
 |..9|..8|.2.|
 |.4.|...|18.|
 |.7.|...|...|
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Re: February 18, 2019

Postby SpAce » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:56 am

Giving up on an stte solution, at least for now. (Edit: found one, see below.)

original lclste: Show
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.--------------------.------------------------.----------------------.
| 47      9    5     | c(38)    a(1)-8   2    | c(38)4    1347   6   |
| 24     b13   8     |   7       b156   b1356 |   2345   b134    9   |
| 6       13   27    |   358      4      9    |   2358    137    128 |
:--------------------+------------------------+----------------------:
| 13579   2    13467 |   45689    56789  4567 |   34689   13469  18  |
| 39      68   346   |   1        2689   46   |   234689  5      7   |
| 1579    568  1467  |   245689   3      4567 |   24689   1469   128 |
:--------------------+------------------------+----------------------:
| 135     56   9     |   3456     156    8    |   7       2      345 |
| 235     4    236   |   23569    25679  3567 |   1       8      35  |
| 8       7    123   |   2345     125    1345 |   69      69     345 |
'--------------------'------------------------'----------------------'

(1)r1c5 = (134)r2c5628 - (4=38)r1c74 => -8 r1c5; lclste

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.-------------------.------------------------.---------------------.
| 47     9    5     | a38     a(1)8    2     | a348     1347   6   |
| 24   b(1)3  8     |  7        56-1   356-1 |  2345  b(1)34   9   |
| 6      13   27    |  358      4      9     |  2358    137    128 |
:-------------------+------------------------+---------------------:
| 13579  2    13467 |  45689    56789  4567  |  34689   13469  18  |
| 39     68   346   |  1        2689   46    |  234689  5      7   |
| 1579   568  1467  |  245689   3      4567  |  24689   1469   128 |
:-------------------+------------------------+---------------------:
| 135    56   9     |  3456     156    8     |  7       2      345 |
| 235    4    236   |  23569    25679  3567  |  1       8      35  |
| 8      7    123   |  2345     125    1345  |  69      69     345 |
'-------------------'------------------------'---------------------'

(1=834)r1c547 - (4=31)r2c82 => -1 r2c56; lclste

Added. An stte extension to the previous:

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.-------------------.-------------------------.---------------------.
| 47     9    5     | b38    eba(1)8     2    | b348     1347   6   |
| 24    c13   8     |  7     eda(156)   d1356 |  2345   c134    9   |
| 6      13   27    |  358       4       9    |  2358    137    128 |
:-------------------+-------------------------+---------------------:
| 13579  2    13467 |  45689     789-56  4567 |  34689   13469  18  |
| 39     68   346   |  1         289-6   46   |  234689  5      7   |
| 1579   568  1467  |  245689    3       4567 |  24689   1469   128 |
:-------------------+-------------------------+---------------------:
| 135    56   9     |  3456   ea(156)    8    |  7       2      345 |
| 235    4    236   |  23569     279-56  3567 |  1       8      35  |
| 8      7    123   |  2345      2-15    1345 |  69      69     345 |
'-------------------'-------------------------'---------------------'

(156)r127c5 = (834)r1c547 - (4=31)r2c82 - r2c56 = (156)r127c5 => -15 r9c5, -56 r48c5, -6 r5c5; stte

Added 2. A bit shorter stte variant based on my original lclste solution (and the way I actually saw this too). Is the first link kind of hard to understand, though? If not, then I would prefer this one.

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.-------------------.-------------------------.---------------------.
| 47     9    5     | c38     da(1)8     2    | c348     1347   6   |
| 24    b13   8     |  7     dba(156)   b1356 |  2345   b134    9   |
| 6      13   27    |  358       4       9    |  2358    137    128 |
:-------------------+-------------------------+---------------------:
| 13579  2    13467 |  45689     789-56  4567 |  34689   13469  18  |
| 39     68   346   |  1         289-6   46   |  234689  5      7   |
| 1579   568  1467  |  245689    3       4567 |  24689   1469   128 |
:-------------------+-------------------------+---------------------:
| 135    56   9     |  3456   da(156)    8    |  7       2      345 |
| 235    4    236   |  23569     279-56  3567 |  1       8      35  |
| 8      7    123   |  2345      2-15    1345 |  69      69     345 |
'-------------------'-------------------------'---------------------'

(156)r127c5 = (134)r2c5628 - (4=38)r1c47 - (8=156)r127c5 => -15 r9c5, -56 r48c5, -6 r5c5; stte
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Re: February 18, 2019

Postby Ngisa » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:41 pm

Code: Select all
+---------------------+-------------------------+----------------------+
| 47      9     5     |c38        d18      2    | 348      1347    6   |
|a24     b13    8     | 7        eb156    b1356 |h2345    b134     9   |
| 6       13    7-2   |c358        4       9    |h2358     137    i128 |
+---------------------+-----------------------------+------------------+
| 13579   2     13467 | 45689      56789   4567 | 34689    13469   18  |
| 39      68    346   | 1         f2689    46   |g234689   5       7   |
| 1579    568   1467  | 245689     3       4567 | 24689    1469    128 |
+---------------------+-------------------------+----------------------+
| 135     56    9     | 3456      e156     8    | 7        2       345 |
| 235     4     236   | 23569      25679   3567 | 1        8       35  |
| 8       7     123   | 2345      e125     1345 | 69       69      345 |
+---------------------+-------------------------+----------------------+

(2=4)r2c1 - (4=1365)r2c2568 - (5=38)r13c4 - (8=1)r1c5 - (1=562)r279c5 - (2)r5c5 = r5c7 - r23c7 = (2)r3c9 => - 2r3c3; lslcte

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Re: February 18, 2019

Postby Cenoman » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:09 pm

Code: Select all
 +------------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+
 |  47      9     5       |  38      G18      2      |  348      1347    6     |
 | C24      13    8       |  7     zGa16-5 zGa136-5  | D2345     134     9     |
 |  6       13    27      |  358      4       9      |  2358     137     128   |
 +------------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+
 |  13579   2     13467   |  45689   F56789   4567   |  34689    13469   18    |
 |  39      68    346     |  1       F2689    46     | E234689   5       7     |
 |  1579    568   1467    |  245689   3       4567   |  24689    1469    128   |
 +------------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+
 |  135     56    9       |  3456     156     8      |  7        2       345   |
 | B235     4     236     |  23569   F25679  A3567   |  1        8      B35    |
 |  8       7     123     |  2345     125    y1345   |  69       69      345   |
 +------------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Kraken column (3)r289c6
(36)r2c56
(3)r8c6 - (35=2)r8c19 - r2c1 = r2c7 - r5c7 = (279-8)r458c5 = (816)b2p256
(3-1)r9c6=(16)r2c56
= >-5 r2c56; ste
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Re: February 18, 2019

Postby eleven » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:56 pm

SpAce wrote:Is the first link kind of hard to understand, though?
...
(156)r127c5 = (134)r2c5628 - (4=38)r1c47 - (8=156)r127c5 => -15 r9c5, -56 r48c5, -6 r5c5; stte

Nice one.
It's not hard to understand, but the notation does not show you the locked 1 in r2c56, maybe a comma or other separator would help.
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Re: February 18, 2019

Postby SpAce » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:48 pm

eleven wrote:
SpAce wrote:Is the first link kind of hard to understand, though?
...
(156)r127c5 = (134)r2c5628 - (4=38)r1c47 - (8=156)r127c5 => -15 r9c5, -56 r48c5, -6 r5c5; stte

Nice one.
It's not hard to understand, but the notation does not show you the locked 1 in r2c56, maybe a comma or other separator would help.

Thanks! I think you're right. The comma notation might indeed help here, though the exact location(s) might be open for debate. Might this be enough to clarify the link between 1r1c5 and 1r2c56 (which I think is the main issue with the original):

(56,1)r271c5 = (134)r2c5628 - (4=38)r1c74 - (8=156)r127c5

? Or do we need one (or more) for the second node as well? In that case I'd be tempted to add one also to the last node, just for the sake of symmetry:

(56,1)r271c5 = (1,34)r2c56,28 - (4=38)r1c74 - (8=1,56)r127c5

I'd like to keep the commas to the minimum, but what is that in this case? To me it seems that we need one more for the first than the second node, but I might be blind to something.
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