Directions Sudoku

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Directions Sudoku

Postby Wecoc » Fri May 17, 2019 6:34 pm

I have some ideas I'd like to share, and I've been struggling with this one for a while.
I would name this 'Arrow Sudoku' but that's already a well-known variant (this is starting to feel like trying to choose a good unused name for a Pokemon game :lol: )

It starts from a pretty straightforward idea. We have a grid full of arrows so we have to move through the grid following them to find the longest possible path.
The path ends when we enter an infinite loop or we get out of the grid (it could loop to the other side like a toroid but I'm not considering that case)

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In this example the longest path (blue) has 11 squares.

From there we could try a little challenge: Find the perfect square (arrows non-repeated in any row/column) with the longest path:

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I'm thinking at least 1 clue should be given since a completely empty puzzle would have (at least) 4 solutions because of rotation.
There are many combinations there so it's already a challenging question but probably you are already guessing where I'm going with this.

Diagonal arrows can also be included, and I implemented a dot which would be a dead end of the path, so with that we have a complete Numpad we can translate to numbers 1-9.

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And from there the question is: From all possible completed sudoku grids (without considering rotation), which one has the longest path?

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Re: Directions Sudoku

Postby Hajime » Sat May 18, 2019 2:21 pm

Very challenging.
For the 4x4 example I found a maximum path of 8 cells (P&P).
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4862
8624
6248
2486
start at the upper 6

For the 9x9 sudoku variant, I hesitate between P&P and programming....
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Re: Directions Sudoku

Postby Hajime » Sun May 19, 2019 3:46 pm

Choose for programming...
Interim result: start at center cell (5,5); path length 46.
Only path cells are shown (sudoku is solvable)
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I think my laptop is busy the whole night...
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Re: Directions Sudoku

Postby Wecoc » Mon May 20, 2019 11:39 am

Yes, we got the same result on the 4x4 version :D
On the 9x9 sudoku version you are way ahead of me, but there's a problem.

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I think the approch is good though, I believe it's faster to use programming as you did to search for longest possible paths and later check each result for solvability.
Alternatively, as in this case, the 5 will usually be the breaking point: fixing them before-hand could also be a good method.
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Re: Directions Sudoku

Postby Hajime » Mon May 20, 2019 3:46 pm

Oops there is a bug in my program. I do check if the generated path will also lead to a valid Sudoku.
Here something is wrong. In the 3rd row a "2" and a "5" is needed, but in box 1 a "2" is already present.
Back to the drawing board....

A typo in the code, so now a new one, only 43 length, starting at center cell (5,5)
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..3...64..924618...8693..7.9....6284.74.1.39..682...17..71.34686317..9..849......

interim result and and a new night to search....
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