December 18, 2019

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December 18, 2019

Postby ArkieTech » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:16 am

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 *-----------*
 |...|5..|.49|
 |7..|.6.|...|
 |...|..1|5..|
 |---+---+---|
 |...|23.|...|
 |..1|...|...|
 |64.|...|..8|
 |---+---+---|
 |.5.|..4|...|
 |..4|...|37.|
 |..2|..9|.51|
 *-----------*

...5...497...6.........15.....23......1......64......8.5...4.....4...37...2..9.51


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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby Leren » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:26 am

Code: Select all
*-------------------------------------*
| 28 1  68 | 5  7  3   | 26    4    9 |
| 7  9  5  | 4  6  2   |*18   *18   3 |
| 4  23 36 | 8  9  1   | 5     26   7 |
|----------+-----------+--------------|
| 5  7  89 | 2  3  8-6 |*19+6 *19+6 4 |
| 28 23 1  | 69 4  678 | 79-6  39-6 5 |
| 6  4  39 | 19 15 57  | 279   239  8 |
|----------+-----------+--------------|
| 1  5  7  | 3  2  4   |*89   *89   6 |
| 9  8  4  | 16 15 56  | 3     7    2 |
| 3  6  2  | 7  8  9   | 4     5    1 |
*-------------------------------------*

DP (189) r247c78 => - 6 r4c6, r5c89; stte

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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby pjb » Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:39 am

Code: Select all
 28      1       68     | 5      7      3      | 26     4      9     
 7       9       5      | 4      6      2      | 18     18     3     
 4       23     b36     | 8      9      1      | 5     a26     7     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
 5       7       89     | 2      3      68     | 169    169    4     
 28      23      1      | 69     4      678    | 679    369    5     
 6       4      c39     | 19     15     57     | 279   d39-2   8     
------------------------+----------------------+---------------------
 1       5       7      | 3      2      4      | 89     89     6     
 9       8       4      | 16     15     56     | 3      7      2     
 3       6       2      | 7      8      9      | 4      5      1     

(2=6)r3c8 - (6=3)r3c3 - r6c3 = r6c8 => -2 r6c8; stte

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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby SpAce » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:26 am

Just one of the many wings available:

Code: Select all
.------------------.-------------.----------------.
| 28    1      68  | 5   7   3   | 26     4     9 |
| 7     9      5   | 4   6   2   | 18     18    3 |
| 4   a[32]    6-3 | 8   9   1   | 5    a[2]6   7 |
:------------------+-------------+----------------:
| 5     7      89  | 2   3   68  | 169    169   4 |
| 28    2-3    1   | 69  4   678 | 679    369   5 |
| 6     4    b(3)9 | 19  15  57  | 279  b(32)9  8 |
:------------------+-------------+----------------:
| 1     5      7   | 3   2   4   | 89     89    6 |
| 9     8      4   | 16  15  56  | 3      7     2 |
| 3     6      2   | 7   8   9   | 4      5     1 |
'------------------'-------------'----------------'

M2-Wing:

(32)r3c28 = (23)r6c83 => -3 r3c3,r5c2; stte

explicit chain: Show
(3=2)r3c2 - r3c8 = (2-3)r6c8 = (3)r6c3 => -3 r3c3,r5c2; stte

some other wings for reference: Show
Cells r3c28,r6c38 (like the previous M2-Wing):

    L2-Wing:

      (2)r3c8 = (2-3)r6c8 = r6c3 - r3c3 = (3)r3c2 => -2 r3c2; stte
Cells r36c38:

    M3-Wing:

      (63)r36c3 = (32)r63c8 => -6 r3c8; stte
      <=>
      (6=3)r3c3 - r6c3 = (3-2)r6c8 = (2)r3c8 => -6 r3c8; stte
    L3-Wing:

      (32)r6c38 = (26)r3c83 => -3 r3c3;stte
      <=>
      (3)r6c3 = (3-2)r6c8 = (2-6)r3c8 = (6)r3c3 => -3 r3c3; stte
    L3-Wing:

      (36)r63c3 = (62)r36c8 => -3 r6c8; stte
      <=>
      (3)r6c3 = (3-6)r3c3 = (6-2)r3c8 = (2)r6c8 => -3 r6c8; stte
    H-Wing:

      (2=6)r3c8 - (6=3)r3c3 - r6c3 = (3)r6c8 => -2 r6c8; stte (Phil's chain)
-SpAce-: Show
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   *             |    |               |    |    *
        *        |=()=|    /  _  \    |=()=|               *
            *    |    |   |-=( )=-|   |    |      *
     *                     \  ¯  /                   *   

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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby rjamil » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:07 am

Code: Select all
 +--------------+--------------+---------------+
 | 28  1    68  | 5    7   3   | 26     4    9 |
 | 7   9    5   | 4    6   2   | 18     18   3 |
 | 4   23  (36) | 8    9   1   | 5     (26)  7 |
 +--------------+--------------+---------------+
 | 5   7    89  | 2    3   68  | 169    169  4 |
 | 28  23   1   | 69   4   678 | 679    369  5 |
 | 6   4   (39) | 1-9  15  57  | 27-9  (239) 8 |
 +--------------+--------------+---------------+
 | 1   5    7   | 3    2   4   | 89     89   6 |
 | 9   8    4   | 16   15  56  | 3      7    2 |
 | 3   6    2   | 7    8   9   | 4      5    1 |
 +--------------+--------------+---------------+

Almost Locked Set move: 2369 @ r6c38 r3c38 => -9 @ r6c47; stte

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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby Cenoman » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:26 am

As a wink to Robert ;) :
Code: Select all
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  28   1    68   |  5    7    3     |  26    4     9    |
 |  7    9    5    |  4    6    2     |  18    18    3    |
 |  4   b23   36   |  8    9    1     |  5     26    7    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  5    7    89   |  2    3    68    |  169   169   4    |
 |  28  c23   1    |  69   4    678   |  679   369   5    |
 |  6    4    39   |  19   15   57    |  279 da39-2  8    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  1    5    7    |  3    2    4     |  89    89    6    |
 |  9    8    4    |  16   15   56    |  3     7     2    |
 |  3    6    2    |  7    8    9     |  4     5     1    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+

(2)r6c8 -> (2)r3c2 -> (3)r5c2 -> (3)r6c8 =>contradiction; -2r6c8; ste
...more or less the same as phil's and SpAce's
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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby SpAce » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:54 am

Hi rjamil,

rjamil wrote:Almost Locked Set move: 2369 @ r6c38 r3c38 => -9 @ r6c47; stte

Nice move! If you want to know a more specific name, I see a couple of options depending on how the logic is seen:

    Overlapping ALS-XY-Wing:

      (9=36)r63c3 - (6=2)r3c8 - (2=39)r6c83 => -9 r6c47
...or:

    AALS-XZ:

      (9=36)r63c3 - (3|6=29)r36c8 => -9 r6c47
I prefer the latter.
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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby rjamil » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:42 am

Hi SpAce,

Many thanks for providing the Sudoku encyclopedia.

I see lot of moves based on the same four cells but different exclusions/eliminations and logics.

Are these moves merged together and produced combined exclusions in single move?

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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby SpAce » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:08 pm

rjamil wrote:I see lot of moves based on the same four cells but different exclusions/eliminations and logics.

Are these moves merged together and produced combined exclusions in single move?

Not as any normal pattern or chain, at least without a lot of redundancy, but it doesn't matter because they all solve the puzzle. If you really want to get them all at the same time, a limited 3D-Medusa will do the trick:

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.----------------.-------------.----------------.
| 28  1    68    | 5   7   3   | 26   4       9 |
| 7   9    5     | 4   6   2   | 18   18      3 |
| 4   23   6'-3" | 8   9   1   | 5    2'-6"   7 |
:----------------+-------------+----------------:
| 5   7    89    | 2   3   68  | 169  169     4 |
| 28  23   1     | 69  4   678 | 679  369     5 |
| 6   4    3'-9" | 19  15  57  | 279  9-2"3"  8 |
:----------------+-------------+----------------:
| 1   5    7     | 3   2   4   | 89   89      6 |
| 9   8    4     | 16  15  56  | 3    7       2 |
| 3   6    2     | 7   8   9   | 4    5       1 |
'----------------'-------------'----------------'

3D-Medusa: "-contradiction in r6c8 => +6 r3c3, +2 r3c8, +3 r6c3, -23 r6c8

However, the coloring can be extended to get a lot more:

Code: Select all
.---------------------.---------------.------------------.
| 2'-8"  1      8'-6" | 5   7   3     | 6'-2"  4       9 |
| 7      9      5     | 4   6   2     | 18     18      3 |
| 4      3'-2"  6'-3" | 8   9   1     | 5      2'-6"   7 |
:---------------------+---------------+------------------:
| 5      7      9'-8" | 2   3   8'-6" | 19-6   169     4 |
| 8'-2"  2'-3"  1     | 69  4   67-8" | 679    3'-69   5 |
| 6      4      3'-9" | 19  15  57    | 2'-79  9-2"3"  8 |
:---------------------+---------------+------------------:
| 1      5      7     | 3   2   4     | 89     89      6 |
| 9      8      4     | 16  15  56    | 3      7       2 |
| 3      6      2     | 7   8   9     | 4      5       1 |
'---------------------'---------------'------------------'

3D-Medusa

Wrap: "-contradiction in r6c8 => 13 '-placements, 3 other "-eliminations
Trap: -6 r4c7

Not much to clean up after that. Of course coloring is more of a solving method than a presentable pattern. I find most of my solutions with coloring (this too -- the above is exactly what I found). Then I just figure out a way to present it more simply. (This puzzle got solved with just 3D-Medusa, which is the second simplest type of coloring after Simple Coloring. Usually more advanced methods are needed.)
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Re: December 18, 2019

Postby Mauriès Robert » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:24 am

Cenoman wrote:As a wink to Robert ;) :
Code: Select all
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  28   1    68   |  5    7    3     |  26    4     9    |
 |  7    9    5    |  4    6    2     |  18    18    3    |
 |  4   b23   36   |  8    9    1     |  5     26    7    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  5    7    89   |  2    3    68    |  169   169   4    |
 |  28  c23   1    |  69   4    678   |  679   369   5    |
 |  6    4    39   |  19   15   57    |  279 da39-2  8    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+
 |  1    5    7    |  3    2    4     |  89    89    6    |
 |  9    8    4    |  16   15   56    |  3     7     2    |
 |  3    6    2    |  7    8    9     |  4     5     1    |
 +-----------------+------------------+-------------------+

(2)r6c8 -> (2)r3c2 -> (3)r5c2 -> (3)r6c8 =>contradiction; -2r6c8; ste

Thanks Cenoman, I'm less alone like this!
On peut aussi éviter la contradiction directe en procédant avec une anti-piste :
P'(3r6c8) : -3r6c8 -> 3r6c3 -> 6r3c3 -> 2r3c8 => -2r6c8 :D
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