champagne # 206 # (227043) #

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champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby Pat » Tue May 21, 2013 7:54 am



    this puzzle requires "advanced" moves

    .12.3....4.5...6..37.4.......43..7..6....1.5.....8...1.2.5..3......1..7......2..6

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Code: Select all

 . 1 2 | . 3 . | . . .
 4 . 5 | . . . | 6 . .
 3 7 . | 4 . . | . . .
-------+-------+------
 . . 4 | 3 . . | 7 . .
 6 . . | . . 1 | . 5 .
 . . . | . 8 . | . . 1
-------+-------+------
 . 2 . | 5 . . | 3 . .
 . . . | . 1 . | . 7 .
 . . . | . . 2 | . . 6

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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby pjb » Tue May 21, 2013 8:37 am

This can be attacked with fish:
Jellyfish of 8s in rows 2347 and columns 2689 => -8 r1c8, r5c29;
Naked pairs of 39 at r5c2 and r5c9;
Finned swordfish of 9s at rows 1689 and columns 147 => -9 r9c5; stte

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Postby Pat » Tue May 21, 2013 9:22 am


    yes, fish

    how about:
    no fins ?
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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby Leren » Tue May 21, 2013 9:30 am

There is a Jellyfish of 9's c1347 r1689 => -9 r1c8, r6c268, r9c5; stte

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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby ArkieTech » Tue May 21, 2013 11:16 am

Code: Select all
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 89     1      2      | 67     3      567    | 489    489    57     |
 | 4      89     5      | 1      279    789    | 6      2389   23789  |
 | 3      7      6      | 4      259    589    | 1      289    2589   |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 1      589    4      | 3      569    569    | 7      2689   289    |
 | 6     b389   b789    | 2      479    1      |b489    5     b389    |
 | 2      35-9  c79     | 67-9   8      4567-9 |a49     346-9  1      |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
 | 7      2      1      | 5      46     46     | 3      89     89     |
 | 5      6      89     | 89     1      3      | 2      7      4      |
 | 89     4      3      | 789    79     2      | 5      1      6      |
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
(9=4)r6c7-(4=7)r5c2379-(7=9)r6c3 => -9r6c2468; lclste
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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby pjb » Tue May 21, 2013 12:44 pm

Leren
Do we have the same PM's? I thought the 4 columns of a jelly fish should have their 9's in 4 rows only, but there are 9's in rows 15689 (c1- r19, c3-568, c4- 689, c7- 156)
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Postby Pat » Tue May 21, 2013 1:02 pm

as you mentioned earlier,
r5 has a naked pair
-- which excludes those extra 9s
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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby SudoQ » Tue May 21, 2013 5:02 pm

ArkieTech wrote:
Code: Select all
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 6     b389   b789    | 2      479    1      |b489    5     b389    |
 | 2      35-9  c79     | 67-9   8      4567-9 |a49     346-9  1      |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
(9=4)r6c7-(4=7)r5c2379-(7=9)r6c3 => -9r6c2468; lclste

Only cells with 4 and 7 needed in row 5:
Code: Select all
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 89  1    2   | 67   3    567   | 489  489   57    |
| 4   89   5   | 1    279  789   | 6    2389  23789 |
| 3   7    6   | 4    259  589   | 1    289   2589  |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 1  589   4   | 3    569  569   | 7    2689  289   |
| 6  389 (7)89 | 2   (47)9 1     |(4)89  5    389   |
| 2  359  (79) | 67-9  8  45679  |(49)   3469  1    |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 7   2    1   | 5    46   46    | 3    89    89    |
| 5   6    89  | 89   1    3     | 2    7     4     |
| 89  4    3   | 789  79   2     | 5    1     6     |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby Leren » Wed May 22, 2013 12:42 am

pjb wrote:Leren
Do we have the same PM's? I thought the 4 columns of a jelly fish should have their 9's in 4 rows only, but there are 9's in rows 15689 (c1- r19, c3-568, c4- 689, c7- 156)
Phil

Code: Select all
*--------------------------------------------------------------*
|*89    1     2      | 67    3     567    |*489   4-9   57     |
| 4     89    5      | 1     279   789    | 6     2389  23789  |
| 3     7     6      | 4     259   589    | 1     289   2589   |
|--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
| 1     589   4      | 3     569   569    | 7     2689  289    |
| 6     39    78     | 2     47    1      | 48    5     39     |
| 2     35-9 *79     |*679   8     4567-9 |*49    346-9 1      |
|--------------------+--------------------+--------------------|
| 7     2     1      | 5     46    46     | 3     89    89     |
| 5     6    *89     |*89    1     3      | 2     7     4      |
|*89    4     3      |*789   7-9   2      | 5     1     6      |
*--------------------------------------------------------------*

PM for the Jellyfish c1347 r 1689

Note the naked pair (39) r5c29 => - 9 r5c357 just before the Jellyfish

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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby pjb » Wed May 22, 2013 5:41 am

Leren
Apologies. I assumed for no good reason that you were using the beginning state.

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Re: champagne # 206 # (227043) #

Postby Leren » Wed May 22, 2013 7:11 am

SudoQ wrote:
ArkieTech wrote:
Code: Select all
 *--------------------------------------------------------------------*
 | 6     b389   b789    | 2      479    1      |b489    5     b389    |
 | 2      35-9  c79     | 67-9   8      4567-9 |a49     346-9  1      |
 |----------------------+----------------------+----------------------|
(9=4)r6c7-(4=7)r5c2379-(7=9)r6c3 => -9r6c2468; lclste

Only cells with 4 and 7 needed in row 5:
Code: Select all
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 89  1    2   | 67   3    567   | 489  489   57    |
| 4   89   5   | 1    279  789   | 6    2389  23789 |
| 3   7    6   | 4    259  589   | 1    289   2589  |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 1  589   4   | 3    569  569   | 7    2689  289   |
| 6  389 (7)89 | 2   (47)9 1     |(4)89  5    389   |
| 2  359  (79) | 67-9  8  45679  |(49)   3469  1    |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
| 7   2    1   | 5    46   46    | 3    89    89    |
| 5   6    89  | 89   1    3     | 2    7     4     |
| 89  4    3   | 789  79   2     | 5    1     6     |
|--------------|-----------------|------------------|
/SudoQ


(9=7) r6c3 - r5c3 = (7-4) r5c5 = r5c7 - (4=9) r6c7 loop => -9 r5c5, r6c2468, -4 r1c7, r6c8

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