31 March #106 (too?) fiendish

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31 March #106 (too?) fiendish

Postby possum » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:28 am

I cannot get further than this with this puzzle:

*72 | 451 | *9*
*4* | 63* | 71*
13* | 7*8 | 4*5
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*** | 2** | *3*
3*4 | *** | 6**
*6* | **3 | ***
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9** | 38* | 147
*1* | 5*4 | *8*
48* | 917 | 5**

Any tips gratefully received.
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Postby shakers » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:07 am

There's only one place for the 2 in col 7.

STOP READING NOW IF YOU WANT TO WORK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. Otherwise:

It has to go in r6c7 - it cannot go in r2c7 or r4c7 obviously. It cannot go in r8c7 because the only possible place for a 2 in r9 is either r9c8 or r9c9 so 2 can be eliminated from r8c7.
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Postby possum » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:57 am

Thank you shakers. I can't believe I missed the fact that the 2 had to be at the bottom of box 9. Thanks again.
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Postby shakers » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:00 pm

No problem - I know what it can be like staring at the puzzle for ages. Another pair of eyes is often all that's needed.:)
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Postby SteveF » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:34 pm

If it's any consolation, I spent quite some time over two days at the end of last week before spotting the above. In fact I solved the following day's fiendish before returning to this one!

Not for the first time, having spotted it you wonder why you have missed it for so long.
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Postby shakers » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:40 pm

I feel as if I've noticed that when the only move forward is in column, row, or box 8 or 9 it can take an awful lot longer to find than if it's in col, row, or box 1 or 2.

Is this something that could be put in when the puzzle's designed, or am I just imaging things now..?

Maybe when going through possibilities it would be worth working 9 to 1 for a change?!
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31 March #106 (too?) fiendish

Postby Guest » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:06 am

I have posted the steps that show the logic for
the 2 in r6c7.

See Example #7 @

http://www.easysurf.cc/su-doku.htm
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